Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
He made a really nice play yesterday taking a rebound off the wall and throwing a dart to 2nd to keep the runner to a single. The throw was absolutely perfect.
Used to be the norm. More often than not, those throws are slightly off line or really off line.
I'm not saying this as a criticism of Gordon, age always wins. However, you could always argue his elite defense was a good enough reason to keep playing him, but that is no longer the case. His defense is average now, IMO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
FWIW, Gordon's minus-5 DRS this season, which puts him 45th among all qualified OFs. He was plus-18 last year, plus-9 the year before that.
That is one staggering fall from grace.
Life comes at you fast. I'm almost Gordon's age so this is very scary. :-) [Reply]
In his one postseason series, though, he ran into our Boys in Blue, who held him to one hit (a homer) and 3 walks in 15 plate appearances, good for only a 0.600 OPS. https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...i01&t=b&post=1
Yeah, you can’t be the best of All Time if you go 1-12 in a playoff series in which your team was the #1 seed in the playoffs and HEAVILY favored over the upstart Royals. His team may suck now, but that Angels team had plenty of talent. He and his team just simply didn’t get it done in that series. [Reply]
I know it's a small thing and means nothing long-term...but tonight's lineup is an example of what drives me nuts about Yost and always has. Arteaga batting second? I'm curious as to why he's getting so much playing time as it is...but batting second? WHY? And why can't we just ride Whit and Lopez at 2B and SS until Mondi returns? This seems so simple, but Yost seems to have some convoluted logic that only he's privy to. I give Dayton plenty of slack...I think he deserves it and actually has some talent as a GM...Yost is what he always was. A pretty good manager of players and good at making the painfully obvious decisions on a talent-rich team...but terrible at getting the most out of a team with lesser parts. I'm genuinely surprised more people don't call for a change at manager long before the GM. [Reply]
Gordon was sitting tonight, you gotta play somebody in left. Playing left in Fenway is tricky so Yost stuck Whit out there, which was probably his best option. Thus why you end up with Lopez and Arteaga in the infield.
As far as why he hit Arteaga second, I have no idea. Lack of options, I guess? With Mondesi out and Gordon sitting, not sure who else you can really put there? Lopez was given the opportunity for a while, but couldn’t hold it down.
Yost is not the greatest tactician or manager in general, but in all fairness to him, he doesn’t have much to work with right now. [Reply]
Yeah you can't really have it both ways. We're sitting here talking about how Gordon and Bubba are struggling big time, well you can't complain when they get a day off and someone else has to play. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
Yeah you can't really have it both ways. We're sitting here talking about how Gordon and Bubba are struggling big time, well you can't complain when they get a day off and someone else has to play.
Not really wanting it both ways. I haven't actually been complaining about either of them...so that's not really my issue. Must be talking to someone else or "the general tenor" of the board. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Gordon was sitting tonight, you gotta play somebody in left. Playing left in Fenway is tricky so Yost stuck Whit out there, which was probably his best option. Thus why you end up with Lopez and Arteaga in the infield.
As far as why he hit Arteaga second, I have no idea. Lack of options, I guess? With Mondesi out and Gordon sitting, not sure who else you can really put there? Lopez was given the opportunity for a while, but couldn’t hold it down.
Yost is not the greatest tactician or manager in general, but in all fairness to him, he doesn’t have much to work with right now.
Don't care about Lopez and Arteaga manning the infield last night, specifically. My point was that Arteaga has been playing way too much for a non-prospect (realistically), when Lopez is perfectly fine handling SS most of the time. Bonus is it lets Whit rest his legs at 2B for a few more weeks. RE: the lineup - Yes, Lopez has struggled. Arteaga has been worse! Arteaga and Hamilton might be the last two you'd want getting the 2nd most at-bats in a game.
And yes...it's a small thing in the big scheme. I get that. It's just curious...DM gets a lot of the heat. He will deserve it if he can't produce another team that competes for championships. But Yost gets a pass from what I've observed. And while he might not have much to work with, that's also my point. He doesn't get the best out of lesser talent. That's not ideal long-term for a small market. [Reply]
