Originally Posted by ROYC75:
They be fans that watch football but doesn't understand how football is played.
Oh mighty purveyor of arcane football stats, please enlighten the unclean & unknowing football pagans that are CP. How many snaps has Fuller taken at slot corner & how many at outside corner these first 6 games? Please redeem us with your wisdom..
Originally Posted by wazu:
Good defensive players become bad players when they join the Chiefs. Their ability levels go down, even though they should be in their prime years. Impossible to say why as there is no common link.
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
If Fuller sucks ass in a different scheme and DC, I will agree.... Until then, I'm game for watching him under different management.
Dude had a 50/50 career up to the trade. He sucked shit his rookie season on the outside and had a good 2nd season as a slot. He was always a gamble, don't give a damn what some around here wanted to believe.
And frankly, he's been fine in coverage. Can't tackle worth a shit though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
Right? Would have been nice to see Peters and Fuller together with this offense. No way Peters would still be sitting out with this team rolling on offense and struggling so much on defense. The guys too competitive. It’s why the trade was so stupid.. He would absolutely be a difference to this team right now and anyone who denies that is absolutely delusional.
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
I personally haven't watched many of the all 22 looks but I can't imagine the safties are giving any help to our corners the way they should be. Even just mentally I think that can have an impact. On the surface I am disappointed but I still expect him to be a player we are happy to have. It's really hard to gauge anything with this defense.
On the all-22 Fuller is always beat and grabbing. OK, not always, but very often he has to reach out and grab or hold.
I was just watching some different media clips about the game, and the NFL weekend in general, and I had a thought or a question, and that is, did Washington punk us?
Did they already know that he wasn't really that good? Had they already determined that his ceiling was just a good slot corner, so they didn't really feel like they were giving up as much as we thought we were getting?
I know Peters is going through a rough stretch right now, but even with his aversion to tackling, he produced for this team, and added more value to this team than Fuller has, even with all the behind the scenes drama he caused.
I am hoping that leading up to his promotion, Veach had only been scouting offense at Reid's request or something, because if he really put all his football knowledge into the defensive players he has acquired, then he has no idea how to identify defensive talent.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Fuller has played below expectations. So has Hitchens.
The only guys that seems to be playing up to his potential (even though it isn't a high ceiling) is Scandrick and he's a 10-year vet.
Sutton HAS to be the problem at this point.
Scandrick has gotten better since the Chargers game. Against the Chargers he beaten badly on more than one occasion.
Hitchens kinda went in the other direction. He looked good early, but now his play has fallen off substantially. I know someone is going to bring up how many tackles he has, but someone on the defense has to get credited with tackles. It's like KU playing four guards, and Dave Armstrong talking up how well Vick rebounds. Someone has to get the rebounds.
They have both been big disappointments. But I feel like Sutton is coaching all the good habits and techniques out of Hitchens, but Fuller is just sooooo slooooow it does not matter where he lines up.
