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Nzoner's Game Room>Why Kansas City should trade for Deone Bucannon & Haason Reddick
Iconic 03:10 PM 10-08-2018
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While the NFL trade deadline is still a few weeks away, that didn’t keep us from musing about some trades that we would like to see for each team last week. Feasibility is always an issue when discussing swapping resources this time of year, but with news from Arizona that former first-round picks Deone Bucannon and Haason Reddick are available, there is a first-place team that might have the requisite motivation to allow the Cardinals to move on from these players.

The Kansas City Chiefs’ defense has been maligned for the better part of the last two years, and for good reason. Even after a solid performance against Blake Bortles and the Jacksonville Jaguars this past Sunday, Chiefs are allowing success in the passing game on 53.70% of early downs, which has been the third-worst mark in the AFC. This is despite the fact that outside linebacker Dee Ford is playing the best football of his career (30 total pressures so far), and the trio of Kendall Fuller, Steven Nelson and Orlando Scandrick has A) been healthy all five games and B) played better than expected.

Their run defense, allowing the 54.55% early-down success rate (worst in the NFL), hasn’t fared much better, however.

This gets to where Bucannon and/or Reddick fit in. The Chiefs signed Anthony Hitchens to a five-year, $45-million deal this offseason to replace Derrick Johnson as their every-down inside linebacker. Hitchens has struggled in that role, allowing 33-of-35 targets into his coverage to be completed, for 1.72 yards per coverage snap (fifth-worst among inside linebackers through Sunday). He’s always been a better run defender than a coverage player throughout his career, but he’s just 47th there this season, with 11 total stops and four missed tackles.

Reggie Ragland, acquired in a trade from Buffalo last preseason, has been very productive in run defense (14th in run-stop percentage) but has (predictably) struggled in pass coverage himself, allowing 1.66 yards per coverage snap and a touchdown this week against T.J. Yeldon in coverage.



While Bucannon has failed to adapt to Steve Wilks’ new scheme this season, Bucannon graded well as a coverage linebacker in 2015 and 2016 and would represent the dime linebacker/safety hybrid the Chiefs have been missing since Tyvon Branch and Hussain Abdullah left after the 2015 season. Whether it has been injuries to safeties Eric Berry and Daniel Sorensen, or feeling the need to play Hitchens and Ragland due to their investment in them, the Chiefs have played six or more defensive backs on fewer than 15% of their defensive snaps this season, down from over 40% the last two years under Bob Sutton. Playing fewer defensive backs has not helped their run defense no matter how you look at it statistically, and while in general more defensive backs does allow more efficiency in the running game, opposing offense’s expected points added against six defensive backs or more when passing the ball is still higher (-0.05 per early-down play since 2013) than when running the ball (-0.07).

When it comes to Reddick, it’s important to point out that, in our preparation for the draft, we found that players that play the same position in the NFL than they did in college were easier to predict than those (like Reddick) that changed positions. The Chiefs are currently working with two players in Breeland Speaks and Tanoh Kpassagnon that were interior players at the college level, but are playing outside linebacker in Sutton’s 3-4 defense. The results have been predictable, with the two combining for just 22 pressures and eight stops in 350 career snaps to this point. Even before Justin Houston left Sunday’s game with an injury, the Chiefs have been in search of a healthy and solid third edge player for as long as Sutton has run the defense. Having Reddick (who had 44 pressures and 46 stops as an edge his final season at Temple) in that role could help revive his career and give the Chiefs options in the future – with Ford facing a contract year and Houston carrying roughly $31 million in potential salary savings the next two years.

With the highest projected win total in the NFL after five weeks, a bright young quarterback on a rookie deal and a head coaching spinning plates with the best of the NFL’s offensive minds, it will be interesting to see the Chiefs’ appetite for improving the personnel of their defense moving forward. While Bucannon or Reddick will likely not be stars, they could contribute in small ways towards making the Chiefs a top-20 defense, which would likely be enough in an offensive-heavy season like this.

In trading for Ragland (a former second-round pick) and starting guard Cameron Erving (a former first-round pick) in his tenure, GM Brett Veach has shown that he’s willing to take a chance on another team’s failed investments. In jettisoning Johnson, star cornerback Marcus Peters and the final three picks of the John Dorsey era after just one year, he’s also shown the ability to cut bait on projects that have produced little fruit.

This appears to be an opportunity to do both.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...cannon-reddick
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pugsnotdrugs19 03:55 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
Hopefully this is right and not just him throwing shit at the wall because of the article in the OP.
He claims that he also reported the Watkins/Hitchens signings?

Idk, but this makes too much sense for us.
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Sassy Squatch 04:00 PM 10-09-2018
Only Twitter name I'd trust is RedMamba707. That's the guy who had the Watkins signing perfect way before it was public.
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O.city 04:01 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I wonder where we would play Reddick?

Inside next to Hitchens? Maybe put him on the edge some on passing downs?
Just on the edge I'd hope.

He's not an ILB>
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pugsnotdrugs19 04:08 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Just on the edge I'd hope.

He's not an ILB>
He has the athleticism to cover backs. Idk I feel like maybe they’d use him there.
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The Franchise 04:09 PM 10-09-2018
If they're looking to trade for him....then I'm assuming it's because they think that he can rotate between the ILB and OLB spots when they need him to.
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staylor26 04:11 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Just on the edge I'd hope.

He's not an ILB>
That’s what the Cardinals drafted him for, and where everybody was pegging him coming out (3-4 ILB).

I haven’t watched him at all, but I was under the impression that he wasn’t a fit in Wilks defense hence the trade talks. Was he a complete failure at 3-4 ILB before the scheme change?
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carcosa 04:11 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Only Twitter name I'd trust is RedMamba707. That's the guy who had the Watkins signing perfect way before it was public.
Somebody ask him!!!
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TambaBerry 04:11 PM 10-09-2018
I'd cum in my pants if we got Reddick
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The Franchise 04:13 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
That’s what the Cardinals drafted him for, and where everybody was pegging him coming out (3-4 ILB).

I haven’t watched him at all, but I was under the impression that he wasn’t a fit in Wilks defense hence the trade talks. Was he a complete failure at 3-4 ILB before the scheme change?
Who fucking knows.....the Cardinals have barely used him since they drafted him.
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staylor26 04:14 PM 10-09-2018
He’s currently PFF’s 13th ranked LB?

He must at least be having a solid year. Go ****ing get this guy now.
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Mecca 04:16 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:

That sounds to me like the Cardinals want someone to take Buchanon to get Reddick like if you want this young player with a good contract help us by taking the shitty one we want rid of.
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Mecca 04:18 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
Who fucking knows.....the Cardinals have barely used him since they drafted him.
He just isn't a fit there anymore, you hire a 4-3 guy when you have 3-4 personnel, what do you do with an undersized speed rusher? He can't play end...
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The Franchise 04:19 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
That sounds to me like the Cardinals want someone to take Buchanon to get Reddick like if you want this young player with a good contract help us by taking the shitty one we want rid of.
Don't see how that would work. $8.7 million is fully guaranteed for this year.

Although they are going to lose $3 million in cap space just from trading Reddick.
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Mecca 04:21 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
Don't see how that would work. $8.7 million is fully guaranteed for this year.

Although they are going to lose $3 million in cap space just from trading Reddick.
You'd have to do some moving of money, if they could find it for Thomas they could do it here also.
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The Franchise 04:22 PM 10-09-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
You'd have to do some moving of money, if they could find it for Thomas they could do it here also.
My guess would be a Houston restructure. Which is fine considering that Buchanan is a FA after this year. Whatever gets Terrance Smith off the fucking field is fine with me.
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