I'm not a huge Big Bang Theory Fan (however, the same cannot be said for the cans of Kaley Cuoco's cans - Big, big fan), but one can't dismiss the effect of the show. I'm not sure it's as big as Seinfeld but it's close.
All shows run their course. All shows start out as something new and fresh and eventually get stale and repetitive. Sitcoms have the same problem that movie sequels do.
Every show mentioned here so far started out great and eventually degenerated into "doing the same thing over and over to keep their fans happy". No sitcom I can think of has ever had characters who really evolve or change greatly. That's not why they're in business.
BBT has its fans and you can't deny its lifetime achievement. On the other hand, Vinny Testaverde played a lot of years in the NFL; doesn't mean he's one of the best QBs ever. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
30 Rock? Arrested Development?
I would agree, the typical 3 camera, 1 or 2 set, laugh track sitcom is all some form of comfort food. Meatloaf, green bean casserole, Nickleback. But there are some that make network that are subversive or innovative.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
It's comfort food. If you like it it, you're not gonna get tired of it. But you're not super excited about it either.
I watched it until Bernadette and Creepy got married, then when they all became millionaires it jumped the shark and I haven't seen more than pieces of episodes in passing in at least a couple years.
Do love Kaley Cuoco's boobs. And the chick who played Bernadette is hot, too.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
30 Rock? Arrested Development?
I would agree, the typical 3 camera, 1 or 2 set, laugh track sitcom is all some form of comfort food. Meatloaf, green bean casserole, Nickleback. But there are some that make network that are subversive or innovative.
Originally Posted by JD10367:
All shows run their course. All shows start out as something new and fresh and eventually get stale and repetitive. Sitcoms have the same problem that movie sequels do.
Every show mentioned here so far started out great and eventually degenerated into "doing the same thing over and over to keep their fans happy". No sitcom I can think of has ever had characters who really evolve or change greatly. That's not why they're in business.
BBT has its fans and you can't deny its lifetime achievement. On the other hand, Vinny Testaverde played a lot of years in the NFL; doesn't mean he's one of the best QBs ever.
didn't he take the Jets to the AFC Championship Game like 2 or 3 years after they went 1-15??
I think they lost to Neil Smith and John Elway's Broncos... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Cheers was great, but Frasier was better.
Loved Night Court and WKRP, neither of which ever got old or stale.
I think the two most consistently funny characters ever are Niles Crane from Frasier and Dan Fielding from Night Court.
Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN:
Barney Miller and Taxi were 2 more sitcoms that will live forever in my mind.
Originally Posted by Al Bundy:
I think you're missing a sit com on your "great" list.
I love Fraiser as well but I think Cheers still outranks Fraiser, which was a little more one dimensional IMHO.
Night Court was FANTASTIC as well, better than Fraiser with a great cast especially Markie Post and her banging body! Dan Fielding couldn't survive today's PC culture.
Taxi a very unique show an hugely funny with even a little darkness. I never could get into Barney Miller but I saw some of the humor in it.
Yeah, Married With Children was fantastic!
I also LOVED one of the most unique comedies of all time: Soap
It was WAY ahead of it's time and launched so many careers! My Mom got hooked on it once she saw me watching it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by scho63:
I love Fraiser as well but I think Cheers still outranks Fraiser, which was a little more one dimensional IMHO.
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I personally like Cheers more as well. I also like that Frasier more. While I love quick, high-brow wit, Frasier having to deal with all the fools at the bar gave me bigger laughs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
It's comfort food. If you like it it, you're not gonna get tired of it. But you're not super excited about it either.
That's a pretty apt comparison. I like the show and have seen every episode, but you won't see me arguing that it's one of the best shows ever. The Office and Parks and Rec are both far superior in my opinion. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
That's a pretty apt comparison. I like the show and have seen every episode, but you won't see me arguing that it's one of the best shows ever. The Office and Parks and Rec are both far superior in my opinion.
So we're clear, I'm not arguing it's the best show ever. I'm just saying the viewership, especially in today's environment is/was enormous. Accordingly, it is fairly newsworthy.
I haven't seen any episodes since Howard and Bernadette (who was huge tits) got married. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
So we're clear, I'm not arguing it's the best show ever. I'm just saying the viewership, especially in today's environment is/was enormous. Accordingly, it is fairly newsworthy.
I haven't seen any episodes since Howard and Bernadette (who was huge tits) got married.
As others have said, it's been pretty forgettable lately. Not bad, just nothing special.
And yeah, certainly it's had a huge impact in terms of viewership and money, regardless of what you think of the quality of the show itself. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
As others have said, it's been pretty forgettable lately. Not bad, just nothing special.
And yeah, certainly it's had a huge impact in terms of viewership and money, regardless of what you think of the quality of the show itself.
I find myself watching the latest episodes just because. I'll watch them because it's DVR'd and there isn't anything else on. It's not like Game of Thrones where I'm excited to sit down and watch it. [Reply]
Pretty sure that's the lowest form of comedy aside form late night talk shows. There are 3 types of sitcoms. ALL sitcoms fall under these three formulas.
1. The 'friends in an apartment' format. I think this was pioneered by Seinfeld. BBT is Seinfeld with nerds. Or Friends with nerds. I'll wager that was the EXACT pitch.
2. The family sitcom. No point in naming anything specific, we all know this one going back 40 years.
3. The workplace sitcom - Probably my favorite kind simply because there's some variation and they're not just slightly altered versions of the same thing (like friends/seinfeld/BBT)
They all constantly spamming laugh tracks after non-jokes. It was far more tolerable when they used actual studio audiences.
Anyway, never watched BBT. Obviously a lot of people did. [Reply]
