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The Lounge>Insiders: Andy and Mahomes upset/mad
Hammock Parties 09:01 AM 11-11-2019
Just heard Fescoe talking about someone close to Andy that told him Andy was extremely distraught by this loss and knows he personally screwed up. This isn't just another loss. This affected Andy deeply.

I think we might see some changes going forward, especially in attention to late game situations.

The other thing I heard this morning from my source is that Mahomes was angry after the game yesterday. So angry that he was almost on the verge of tears. Going forward you might see more fire from Mahomes in leading this team and getting on others when shit goes south. Like Marino/Aikman type leadership.
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BigRedChief 09:31 AM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Anyone who claims Reid is a "terrible" football coach, and then say they are rational about that opinion, well, its silly. He is going to be in the HoF one day and thats not really debatable.
He has late game management issues. But............

If all coaches were suddenly free agents, Andy would be the #2 coach on every teams list.

His main job, IMO, was to get Mahomes ready for the NFL. Remember what people said? He's got a great arm but is going to make horrible decisions on throws, has happy feet, his TT offense inflated numbers cant translate to the NFL, Total project.

Welllll who has molded Mahomes? Who is sitting with Mahomes after every series and coaching him up? Whats been the result? MVP first year and the best QB in the league. Thats made more of a positive impact on our team and us fans than anything else including late game management deficiency issues.
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RunKC 09:49 AM 11-17-2019
Andy isnít terrible and itís dumb to say that, but goddamn is it infuriating to see a great coach fuck up when it matters most every single year.

It sucked with Marty, but this is far worse than anything since Montana got hurt in Buffalo bc we have the best player in the goddamn world.

Last year was devastating bc it was self inflicted. The coaching that allowed the most penalties in the league last year had its season end by a penalty.
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:36 AM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Andy isnít terrible and itís dumb to say that, but goddamn is it infuriating to see a great coach **** up when it matters most every single year.

It sucked with Marty, but this is far worse than anything since Montana got hurt in Buffalo bc we have the best player in the goddamn world.

Last year was devastating bc it was self inflicted. The coaching that allowed the most penalties in the league last year had its season end by a penalty.
You know how many other coaches have had the best or one of the best players in the league and couldn't even consistently field solid teams?

All this bitching about Reid reminds me of people who bitch about Bill Self. Winning 9 million consecutive Big 12 titles, a national championship, 3 final fours, 30 games every year, and being at or near the top of the nation in tourney wins since he was hired isn't acceptable. Because there's someone sitting by the phone and waiting for a call who can do all that AND win a national title every other year.

Likewise, there's obviously someone sitting on his ass who can match Reid's offensive creativity and gameplanning skills, but ALSO transform the defense into a dominant unit and make perfect late-game calls that always work.

People forget that they were 2-14 with the #1 pick when Reid took over. They've been a winning team ever since. With Mahomes, they'll never be 2-14, but it could get mediocre really quickly.
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Jerm 11:44 AM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
He has late game management issues. But............

If all coaches were suddenly free agents, Andy would be the #2 coach on every teams list.
LOL no he wouldn't be....on some teams' list? Probably.

Could just as easily say he'd be 5-7 on a lot of teams' lists too.
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BryanBusby 11:56 AM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by Jerm:
LOL no he wouldn't be....on some teams' list? Probably.

Could just as easily say he'd be 5-7 on a lot of teams' lists too.
:-) no way
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Jerm 11:58 AM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
:-) no way
You don't think a number of teams wouldn't take 4 to 5 coaches before Reid?

Ok....
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pugsnotdrugs19 12:00 PM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by Jerm:
You don't think a number of teams wouldn't take 4 to 5 coaches before Reid?

Ok....
Andy Reid is damn near a guaranteed playoff spot. That means selling tickets and merch.

Now, if a team wanted to look elsewhere due to potential age concerns, ok, maybe. But he’s easily in the top 5 for everyone right now if they’re being honest.
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SDChiefs 12:54 PM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
You know how many other coaches have had the best or one of the best players in the league and couldn't even consistently field solid teams?

All this bitching about Reid reminds me of people who bitch about Bill Self. Winning 9 million consecutive Big 12 titles, a national championship, 3 final fours, 30 games every year, and being at or near the top of the nation in tourney wins since he was hired isn't acceptable. Because there's someone sitting by the phone and waiting for a call who can do all that AND win a national title every other year.

Likewise, there's obviously someone sitting on his ass who can match Reid's offensive creativity and gameplanning skills, but ALSO transform the defense into a dominant unit and make perfect late-game calls that always work.

People forget that they were 2-14 with the #1 pick when Reid took over. They've been a winning team ever since. With Mahomes, they'll never be 2-14, but it could get mediocre really quickly.
We are 6-4. That is the very definition of mediocre.
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BryanBusby 12:56 PM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by Jerm:
You don't think a number of teams wouldn't take 4 to 5 coaches before Reid?

Ok....
No. What a stupid fucking thing to say.
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TwistedChief 12:59 PM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Andy isnít terrible and itís dumb to say that, but goddamn is it infuriating to see a great coach fuck up when it matters most every single year.
Maybe I've forgotten, but what did Reid do in the Patriots game last year that ended our season early?
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Otter 01:05 PM 11-17-2019
Andy would do himself and the team a great service by delegating some of his weaknesses out to other coaches. I think we have a large enough data sample to make this factual.
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GloryDayz 01:06 PM 11-17-2019
Andy is so mad he's declared today "Hangry Taco Sunday" in Mexico and he's binge eating at a line of taco trucks.
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Jerm 01:22 PM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
No. What a stupid fucking thing to say.
Oh I forgot, you know how all 32 teams fucking think and operate...
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Jerm 01:24 PM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Maybe I've forgotten, but what did Reid do in the Patriots game last year that ended our season early?
Well he didn't fire the D-Coordinator who everyone with half a brain could see needed to go...

But everyone will continue to gloss over that and blame Dee Ford. Not like that's any better because well coached and prepared teams don't make stupid mistakes like that.
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CasselGotPeedOn 10:32 PM 11-18-2019
Fatass learned nothing
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