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Media Center>Avengers (4) Endgame - Spoilers Welcome Thread
DaFace 08:09 PM 04-23-2019
Since Endgame is probably one of the most anticipated films we've had here in a while, let's quarantine all discussion from those who have seen the film (or who have otherwise read spoilers). If you don't want to see stuff get spoiled, stay out!

(And this will likely be the last time I view this thread until Friday, so if you need me to put something in the OP or similar, shoot me a PM. I won't read posts in here.)
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Mecca 08:06 AM 04-27-2019
Chris Hemsworth wants to keep being part of the universe as far as I know so he may be the only "old" character that continues.
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Tribal Warfare 08:14 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by DaFace:
After he'd lived his life, he might have "warped" back to the present.They showed earlier in the movie that they could warp between times without going back to the big crazy machine.
This element of assumption time travel is what bothers me. If killing "past" Nebula exists in another timeline then how does Cap exist in the same manner. I'm cool with Cap staying away from the action to live his life with Peggy to be a stay at home husband but the Nebula deviation is the paradox that kills the mingling between Old Cap and Falcon if he is descending from a different reality.
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Hammock Parties 08:31 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
Fuck that shit. This is 2019. Women can like sci-fi. Men can like flowery period dramas. Hell, the same people can like them both. Organ placement shouldn't determine anyone's taste in fiction.
I agree wholeheartedly.

That doesn't mean they need a LOOK AT ME! moment that has nothing to do with the plot.

Hamfisted garbage.

And none of this was groundbreaking.

Alien was over 30 years ago.
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DaFace 08:55 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I agree wholeheartedly.

That doesn't mean they need a LOOK AT ME! moment that has nothing to do with the plot.

Hamfisted garbage.

And none of this was groundbreaking.

Alien was over 30 years ago.
You're acting like the movie wasn't filled with stuff that was basically meant to pander to certain segments of fans.
- Cap lifting Mjolnir
- "Avengers Assemble"
- Jarvis
- Time travel stuff just happens to be to two of the more iconic scenes in the MCU (the circle in the battle in NYC and Starlord dancing to himself at the beginning of GOTG)
- Thor playing Fortnite

I'm sure I could go on if I thought about it. The point is that these movies aren't 100% serious. They're meant to have a good story, lots of action, and a few things thrown in that are just for fun and because fans like them. You don't like Girl Power, and that's OK, but acting it was this huge outlier is just kind of silly.
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Hammock Parties 08:59 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by DaFace:
You're acting like the movie wasn't filled with stuff that was basically meant to pander to certain segments of fans.
- Cap lifting Mjolnir
- "Avengers Assemble"
- Jarvis
- Time travel stuff just happens to be to two of the more iconic scenes in the MCU (the circle in the battle in NYC and Starlord dancing to himself at the beginning of GOTG)
That isn't pandering. That's cool stuff that's in-universe.

This is forcing in something out of universe that weakens the movie.

You actually make female characters WEAKER when you do this.
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Sassy Squatch 10:20 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Chris Hemsworth wants to keep being part of the universe as far as I know so he may be the only "old" character that continues.
Seems like he's going to be a Guardian now. Maybe Guardians 3 will have the Loki that fucked off with the Tesseract as the villian.
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Fish 10:45 AM 04-27-2019
Trying to wrap my head around the tesseract thefts. If they went back and stole it from an even earlier time, does Loki still have the one from the first theft attempt? Does that mean there are now multiple tesseracts?
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DaFace 11:00 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by Fish:
Trying to wrap my head around the tesseract thefts. If they went back and stole it from an even earlier time, does Loki still have the one from the first theft attempt? Does that mean there are now multiple tesseracts?
Multiple time lines as I understand it. I bet they don't go there.
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Clyde Frog 11:11 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Multiple time lines as I understand it. I bet they don't go there.
It has to be. Nothing else would even begin to make a shred of logical sense. But we're talking about a movie pulled from a series of superhero comic books so trying to make too much sense of anything is out the window.
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Sassy Squatch 11:12 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by Fish:
Trying to wrap my head around the tesseract thefts. If they went back and stole it from an even earlier time, does Loki still have the one from the first theft attempt? Does that mean there are now multiple tesseracts?
That's above my pay grade.
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Mile High Mania 11:28 AM 04-27-2019
I really liked the movie, but the ending was wrapped up too nice for me... I mean, aside from the deaths... it was just a ton of warm and fuzzy closure.

I don't like that we missed the whole transformation into Prof Hulk... it was just, pow - 5 years later he controls it all now.

Wanted more Loki as well... he's just too good of a character and the guy plays him so well, I just can't believe he was such a little piece to the last two films. Disappointing.

Fat Thor was funny - and he'll be good with the Guardians. Maybe that's how we see more Loki going forward.
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DaFace 11:45 AM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:


I don't like that we missed the whole transformation into Prof Hulk... it was just, pow - 5 years later he controls it all now.
Yeah, that was one of my biggest complaints. They did almost nothing to resolve Hulk's refusal to help in the last one, and Banner didn't have the attitude to fuck shit up. In essence, we lost Hulk and got a green Banner. That's a miss in my opinion.
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RunKC 12:08 PM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Biggest thing that annoyed me was Thor chopping present Thanos left arm off to get the gauntlet off. Why didn't you do that again in this movie during the final battle during all the hullabaloo? Why didn't you do that LAST movie when you were flying in with a giant battle ax? You can just throw the damn thing where you want it to go.
They caught him completely by surprise and he was very weak and injured.
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CoMoChief 12:16 PM 04-27-2019
Hulk character was a massive disappointment on all levels....almost ruined the movie. It's almost as if the Russo bros don't really give a shit. Hulk was nothing more than a goofy clown who cracked jokes, pulled a couple levers and switches. Wow Good Job Russo Bros. :-)

Same w/ Thor. It was funny at first, but should have ended once he regained Moljnir and had his chat w/ his mother. Once he has Moljnir he strikes down a bolt of lightning and he transforms back into regular Thor that we're all used to seeing. His drunken Lebowski character shouldn't have been dragged on through out the entire movie. Lame.

Bucky should have received Cap's shield. He's been w/ Cap since day 1. He's also an enhanced super soldier while Sam is not.

Needed more fight scenes....movie was too much hangin your head sob shit. The end battle should have been 3x longer than what it was. Movie should have had more run ins w/ their past selves in previous timelines. That would have made the movie much cooler. They did it a little bit, but there should have been more of it..more fight scenes....Cap vs Cap was cool...needed more of that kind of shit. Hulk vs Hulk would have been great to see.

Black Widow killed herself for the good of humanity....no one seemed to care.

This movie could have been a LOT better IMO. But they did make sure to spinkle in some sjw bullshit in there...gay characters, women's empowerment. Not that big of a deal, but it's not really genuine when it's forced like it was. Couldn't make 2 of their biggest characters worth a shit in the final movie, but hey at least we got some sjw sprinkled into the movie! That's what I wanted to see..
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Sassy Squatch 12:33 PM 04-27-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They caught him completely by surprise and he was very weak and injured.
They had him incapacitated in the first movie trying to pull the gauntlet off. Drax had blades. Dr Strange could've magically cut that bitch off.
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