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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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bricks 08:44 PM 11-10-2018
I think we should all move on from this. No need to get caught up on this. Its ****ing draining and negative energy. I'd rather focus on Eric Murray or Daniel Sorenson or something see how they could help out the D.


Now you could bash me about that. But **** man its better than holding onto hope and wishing for Berry to come back. Now its obvious and a no brainer that Berry would have more of an impact if he came back than seeing the development of Eric Murray. But maybe not? He might suck? And not be the same. Then if he does suck, all this worry and concern would be about nothing. That would be the ultimate suckage right there.


At this point, I'd rather focus and place my hope on seeing a guy like Eric Murray develop rather focus on a situation in where there is a slight glim of hope. And if that doesn't work out, there is always next year. Maybe they draft a safety? Maybe they sign Earl Thomas in the off-season? Or maybe Berry has surgery and comes back next year and is amazing? Ok, **** all these questions, Im driving myself nuts. I attribute that to this thread being so ****ing long.
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Flying High D 09:01 PM 11-10-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
People really calling this guy a pussy? Beating cancer in one NFL offseason and coming back ready to play in a grown mans league is Tougher than anything you guys have ever done :-)
How many bullets were flying at him during this time?
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Sweet Daddy Hate 09:53 PM 11-10-2018
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
Big contracts should be offered to Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce.

Everyone else gets the Patriots treatment.

Unfortunately, meritocracy is dead in this league and has been replaced with an inflated, easily manipulated criteria known as "market value". That cap money we were supposed to be saving post-2010 rookie contracts???
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.


Originally Posted by notorious:
It didn’t help that Dorsey waited a year too long to re-sign Houston and Berry.
And you can put that SQUARELY on Reid and Axl McMicropeen.



Jesus titty-dancing, monkeyfucking SHIT this pisses me off! How hard is it to sit at your desk and ask yourself, "who are statistically more likely to have productive seasons; my all-pro Safety, my all-pro Linebacker, or my game-managing, cucktarded QB who HASN'T THROWN A TD TO A FUCKING WIDEOUT ALL SEASON?!?!?!?


GEE?!?!? WHICH COULD IT POSSIBLY FUCKING BE?!?!?



And you know what? I don't find Dorsey to be that fucking stupid. Not by a WIDE margin. So who put it in his ear to perform such a dumbassed, unnecessary move, mmm???

Signing that fucking prick a year before necessary was the DUMBEST goddamned move the Chiefs pulled throughout the entire Reid/Dorsey partnership; the fallout it created still ripples through the pond in a very bad way.











Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back.

You are a sad piece of shit. Please do better or go away.
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TambaBerry 10:31 PM 11-10-2018
Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.


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You're a fucking pussy bitch, we were talking shit on Sorenson and he makes a fraction of what Eric Berry makes so take that race card shove it into your pussy and twist and thrash it around until you bleed out
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Pasta Little Brioni 11:34 PM 11-10-2018
Another day of morons who call in with a cold bitching about a guy that has a serious injury impacting his ability to perform. Idiots...
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Sweet Daddy Hate 11:45 PM 11-10-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Another day to day to day to day to day to day to day to day...with Moron McOneArrowhead, yes...

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chinaski 11:53 PM 11-10-2018
Dr. Andrews give me the news
I’ve got a bad case of Haglund’s Blues
I’ve got a bad case of Haglund’s Blues
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TEX 03:15 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.


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You just might be the biggest idiot on this board. Do you have special needs? If so, I apologize. If not, you're just a fucking moron.
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007 03:47 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by TEX:
You just might be the biggest idiot on this board. Do you have special needs? If so, I apologize. If not, you're just a fucking moron.
There is a downvote button for a reason. Please go use it on this jack wagon.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04:11 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by 007:
There is a downvote button for a reason. Please go use it on this jack wagon.

Done.
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New World Order 04:16 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.


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:-)
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Pasta Little Brioni 10:18 AM 11-11-2018
Glory coached hockey with a hangnail once...tough dude
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GloryDayz 10:24 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Glory coached hockey with a hangnail once...tough dude
:-)

Brah, you mad that I have as many tackles as Berry this year? :-)
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Easy 6 10:33 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.
So its been about him being black all along, huh :-)

Eat shit, loser
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GloryDayz 10:35 AM 11-11-2018
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
So its been about him being black all along, huh :-)

Eat shit, loser
Clearly we've been less harsh on the likes of Alex and cASSHOLE...
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