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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 11:30 AM 04-23-2019

Sources: The #Seahawks and #Chiefs are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 23, 2019

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srvy 02:38 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by TLO:
The draft shows are scrambling to figure out which other team they're gonna take a commercial break on now that the Chiefs don't have a first round pick.
They will catch up in the second round.
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ptlyon 02:38 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by Warrick:
One pick? Are you forgetting the first round pick, which by itself is more than the Chiefs should have gave Seattle.
Somebody really likes late round 1st round picks
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-King- 02:39 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Yup. I knew I’d seen this before.

:-)
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02:39 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
What should we have done? Let’s hear it.
Why does any objectivity have to go out the window once this team makes a move? That makes no fucking sense.

Maybe it WAS the right move. Maybe this guy can't draft for shit and getting proven product at any cost is the way to go!

I would have preferred to wait out the CB market a bit, see what happens post draft, and go to the draft with the idea of picking up a good DE in the first, a CB in the second, and a Center in the 3rd.

I would have preferred to get younger, CHEAPER talent so that we can pay the people we need to pay this year, and let our new coaching staff prove their worth.

This guy Clark might be the greatest FA we've ever picked up but I'm not going to start doing cartwheels every time Veach makes a move because until he can demonstrate that his ass cheeks can assume a position other than "wide the fuck open" and "open for business/no lube required", I don't trust him enough to throw a parade for every move he makes yet.

It's that simple.
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Dartgod 02:40 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by Carlota69:
Quick, somebody hook this guy up with a chocolate covered Midol salt lick
:-)
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Supmarkus 02:41 PM 04-23-2019
My only fear is what this may mean for Hill. I still think Jones gets paid, but Hill is gonna demand elite money if he’s cleared & is in Cleveland for nothing if he ain’t.
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Halfcan 02:41 PM 04-23-2019
We have not had a player like Clark in a long time. Houston used to be that player- but disappeared last year.

Clark is going to energize this defense. Badger, Jones and Clark- nobody will be dogging on the defense this year and not get yelled at to step it up.

Now if we could only get Devin Bush in the draft, draft a Safety so we can get rid of Sorenson this could be a top 10 unit.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02:42 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by Supmarkus:
My only fear is what this may mean for Hill. I still think Jones gets paid, but Hill is gonna demand elite money if he’s cleared & is in Cleveland for nothing if he ain’t.
Garafolo States today that Jones agent has been negotiating for the past couple weeks and is seeking around 20 mil a year. Deal will get done
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The Franchise 02:42 PM 04-23-2019

The Chiefs paid less than it would've cost to trade up to 21 for a guy like Clelin Ferrell. Clark is going to get PAID, but this undoubtedly makes the 2019 and 2020 teams better.

— Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) April 23, 2019


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Prison Bitch 02:42 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I view it as...

Chiefs give:
Dee Ford
1st round (29)

Chiefs get:
Frank Clark
2nd round upgrade in 2020 (49ers pick)
3rd upgrade in 2019 (Seattle vs KC, 9 spots)

Unless you view Clark as a minimal upgrade from Ford, that seems pretty fair to me.

2019 #29 value: 640
2019 # 84 value: 170 (+ 38 from 93)

For sake of the 2020 pick, let’s say the 49ers improve and end up with the 14th pick in round 2: value: 440

If the Chiefs are in the bottom five of round 2 again, you’re looking at value ranging: 292-270 (+150-170)

Let’s keep the numbers round and say they end up gaining 200 draft value points overall. That’s the equivalent of a mid-3rd round pick.

... (edit)
Which means the overall payout in draft pick value equates to basically a mid-2nd


Didn’t mention the $$$$$$$
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New World Order 02:42 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by Supmarkus:
My only fear is what this may mean for Hill. I still think Jones gets paid, but Hill is gonna demand elite money if he’s cleared & is in Cleveland for nothing if he ain’t.
Tag Hill and win our back-to-back superbowls then we can let Hill go wherever he needs to go...
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smithandrew051 02:42 PM 04-23-2019
In one offseason, the Chiefs turned:
Justin Houston (expensive brokedick)
Eric Berry (expensive brokedick)
Dee Ford (perennial brokedick who only consistently shows up in a contract year)
Eric Murray (trash)
The number 29 pick

Into:
Honey Badger
Bashaud Breeland (on a cheap deal)
Ogbah
Frank Clark
Okafor

It’s almost as if the Chiefs defense fucking sucked last year and they needed to upgrade quickly with immediate proven commodities. Quite the concept.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02:43 PM 04-23-2019
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
We have not had a player like Clark in a long time. Houston used to be that player- but disappeared last year.

Clark is going to energize this defense. Badger, Jones and Clark- nobody will be dogging on the defense this year and not get yelled at to step it up.

Now if we could only get Devin Bush in the draft, draft a Safety so we can get rid of Sorenson this could be a top 10 unit.
I still like Sorenson. He’s the only Chiefs player from the past couple of seasons who actually gave a shit
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Iowanian 02:43 PM 04-23-2019
What's the reaction of Seattle fans?

I can only surmise that they are celebrating like Joffrey Baratheon just OD'd?
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smithandrew051 02:44 PM 04-23-2019
Alright, listen, I’m not saying Frank Clark is Khalil Mack. He’s not. But I found these numbers over the last 3 seasons to be interesting.

Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits

Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits
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