I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.
I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE FUCKING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.
Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:
1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis
COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.
People who bitch about the 2017 class don't fucking get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs fucking care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!
Again, let me say this slowly, so the retards and assholes can hear me:
In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.
Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase fucking Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only fucking thing we have at QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ASS11:
I watch multiple games every Saturday. TTU is on FS1 a lot. I've seen plenty of Mahomes.
He's Patty Football. He's not what wins games in the NFL.
And I have no doubt that Andy Reid won't draft him.
But you listed a couple of "Air Raid" QB's earlier that Reid has drafted ...Foles and Kolb. Mahomes arguably has more upside than both of them did as prospects. Also, it's been reported the Chiefs have done extensive research on Mahomes. Would you agree those factors give at least some likelihood of Reid pulling the trigger on Mahomes? [Reply]
again, if this team is so stacked and well coached... and in many ways it is..
WHY DOES YALL NEED to trade the world to move up top 10 for a rd 1 QWataBack??? What's wrong with letting Andy select and develop a late rd 1 or rd 2 guy? [Reply]
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
Better question, what's so great about the 2017 QB draft class? The best prospect only has 1 season under his belt.
No, not a better question. It's a dumber question is what it is.
We KNOW what the 2017 draft class is, and we think we can make it work given what the Chiefs have to offer the rookie in terms of support and time.
If the QB that comes to us in 2018 isn't going to be any better, it doesn't make sense for us to wait.
It's YOUR job to tell me about the depth of talent in the 2018 class, dude. Sell me on it. Make me believe it's rainbows and unicorn farts. Because I don't see it. I see 2 dudes who will likely be SIGNIFICANTLY better than the top guy this year, and guess what.
THE CHIEFS HAVE ZERO CHANCE OF DRAFTING THEM. ZERO. ZEEEEERO. ZILCH. NADA. NOTHING.
I will take Patrick Mahomes and Deshone Kizer over Josh fucking Allen. And fuck, I'll probably fucking take Davis Webb over Josh Allen too.
Josh Allen is not an answer. He's an insult. And that's the shit we'd be getting. It'd be 2012 all fucking over again.
"GREAT FUCKING QB CLASS. BETTER THAN 1983. HOLY SHIT THIS IS AN AMAZING QB CLASS. Oh, uh, Chiefs, the best you can do with your #12 overall pick is Brandon Weeden. No, don't try trading up, either, because you'll only end up Ricky Williamsing your draft for Ryan Tannehill. BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT A FUCKING DRAFT! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!"
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Don't fucking care about ILB.
Do. Not. Fucking. Care.
Draft some guys to fill it, sure. There are a ton of great ILB prospects in this draft. Find one in the 2nd-5th. Fuck, draft two if you want. It doesn't change shit.
I want a top pass rusher. We need that more than we need oxygen. MUCH more than we need an ILB.
"But we got trucked on the ground without DJ!!!"
We were getting trucked on the ground WITH DJ, assholes.
Hassan Reddick is an edge guy.... not an ILB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Al Bundy:
Hassan Reddick is an edge guy.... not an ILB.
He's being looked at by 3-4 teams as an inside guy. More than likely that's going to be his position in the NFL, especially if the Chiefs draft him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
He's being looked at by 3-4 teams as an inside guy. More than likely that's going to be his position in the NFL, especially if the Chiefs draft him.
He's an OLB in the NFL, I saw the same scouting reports. However, he won't be there at 27. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
The funny part is after this season, that "stacked QB class" will suddenly have warts. TOO RISKY. HEY GUYSWAIT FOR 2019!
They'll all contract DiabetesAIDS at the combine from sharing syringes and the Chief's QB hopes will be dashed yet again. [Reply]