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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump says he wanted to take out Syria's Assad but Mattis opposed it
Eleazar 09:31 AM 09-16-2020
Trump says he wanted to take out Syria's Assad but Mattis opposed it

By Brett Samuels - 09/15/20 09:11 AM EDT





President Trump on Tuesday confirmed a plan was in the works to take out Syrian President Bashar Assad in 2017 and that he was supportive of it, but that former Defense Secretary James Mattis was opposed.

The president's disclosure that an assassination operation was discussed came as part of a lengthy diatribe against Mattis, but it confirmed a piece of reporting from 2018 that Trump disputed at the time.


“I would've rather taken him out. I had him all set. Mattis didn’t want to do it. Mattis was a highly overrated general," Trump said on "Fox & Friends."

The president added that he did not regret the decision not to target Assad, saying he "could've lived either way." The Syrian leader has overseen the deaths of scores of civilians amid a years-long civil war that has ravaged the country.

Journalist Bob Woodward reported in his 2018 book, "Fear," that Trump urged Mattis that the U.S. should “f------ kill” Assad following an April 2017 chemical attack on civilians in Syria.

Mattis reportedly went along with the president’s demands during the phone call, but immediately told aides after hanging up that they would take a “much more measured” approach.

Trump was asked about the reporting at the time and said the assassination of Assad was "never even discussed."

"No, that was never even contemplated, nor would it be contemplated and it should not have been written about in the book," Trump said in September 2018.


Trump on Tuesday criticized Mattis at length. Mattis resigned at the end of 2018 after Trump abruptly announced he was pulling all U.S. troops out of Syria, a decision he later reversed.

"To me, he was a terrible general. He was a bad leader, and he wasn't doing the job with ISIS," Trump said. "He was not doing the job in Syria or Iraq with respect to ISIS."

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade interjected to praise Mattis as a great American who served his country.

"I don't say he is a good American or a bad American," Trump replied. "I just say he didn't do a good job."



https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...tis-opposed-it
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Eleazar 10:31 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Who has said that he doesn't? He does seem to fire them pretty frequently, however.

Does it bother you at all that Trump wanted to do this?

Does it bother you that he clearly and openly lied about it?
It's interesting that we have here an unqualified confession by Trump himself that he was lying when he denied ever having discussed taking out Assad, but no one seems to care.
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mlyonsd 10:32 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Do you support POTUS ordering the assassination of foreign leaders?
Did he?
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ChiTown 10:34 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
It's interesting that we have here an unqualified confession by Trump himself that he was lying when he denied ever having discussed taking out Assad, but no one seems to care.
Dude, he lies all the time. Why should I care about this lie more than the others?
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Donger 10:34 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
Did he?
No, thankfully he didn't. If he had, would you have supported it?
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Sideburn 10:36 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Do you support POTUS ordering the assassination of foreign leaders?
I would give Trump the Infinity Gauntlet tomorrow to snap away half of all life just to make traffic better, so yeah, I give zero fucks about Assad.
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Pogue 10:39 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
TDS heavy flow day.
Trump is clowning on the establishment and their useful idiots with his peace deals. Hilarious to watch the pro Iraq war crowd have a meltdown.
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mlyonsd 10:40 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
No, thankfully he didn't. If he had, would you have supported it?
You mean the guy we were trying to kill with airstrikes because he gassed his own people? That guy?
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Donger 10:41 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
You mean the guy we were trying to kill with airstrikes because he gassed his own people? That guy?
We didn't target Assad with the missile strikes at all.
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Eleazar 10:45 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Dude, he lies all the time. Why should I care about this lie more than the others?
There are plenty of people here who will tell you he is honest and doesn't lie to them.
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mlyonsd 10:45 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
We didn't target Assad with the missile strikes at all.
But if he was at a site we bombed and he got killed that would be ok right?
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Donger 10:47 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
But if he was at a site we bombed and he got killed that would be ok right?
Seems it would have been fine with Trump, I guess.
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Bowser 10:50 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Pogue:
Trump is clowning on the establishment and their useful idiots with his peace deals. Hilarious to watch the pro Iraq war crowd have a meltdown.
This is exactly right. Anything to dull the shine of what's happening with the peace accords unfolding right now.

As for this story, I really don't doubt it. Wasn't Syria allowing Iran to build a "facility" within their borders in 2017, one that Trump had destroyed during a live fire coalition training exercise (the name of the joint country operation is escaping me at the moment)? That on top of the stories of Assad gassing his own people probably had Trump and his advisors war gaming the possibility of removing Assad. Hell, as far as that goes, I'm sure the Pentagon has war gamed the possibility of us going to war with any of our closest allies if they were ever to go rogue, as well. That's kind of what they do.
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Donger 10:52 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Bowser:
This is exactly right. Anything to dull the shine of what's happening with the peace accords unfolding right now.
Do you know the last time the UAE and Bahrain engaged Israel in hostilities?
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Bowser 10:54 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Do you know the last time the UAE and Bahrain engaged Israel in hostilities?
"Officially"? I do not. I would not be surprised to learn the answer will end up being "never".
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Pogue 10:55 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I thought Trump didn't listen to his advisors.

Can you guys ever make up your fucking mind?
Some on this forum thought Trump was controlled by Putin, this story blows that up easily.
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