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Eleazar 11:57 AM 09-08-2020
Doctors studying why obesity may be tied to serious COVID-19

Associated Press
SEPTEMBER 8, 2020 — 11:41AM

NEW YORK — In the early days of the pandemic, doctors noticed something about the people severely ill from COVID-19: Many were obese.

The link became more apparent as coronavirus swept across the globe and data mounted, and researchers are still trying to figure out why.

Excess weight increases the chances of developing a number of health problems, including heart disease and diabetes. And those are among the conditions that can make COVID-19 patients more likely to get very sick.

But there's some evidence that obesity itself can increase the likelihood of serious complications from a coronavirus infection. One study of more than 5,200 infected people, including 35% who were obese, found that the chances of hospitalization rose for people with higher BMIs, even when taking into account other conditions that could put them at risk.

Scientists are still studying the factors that might be at play — the way obesity affects the immune system may be one — but say it's another example of the pandemic illuminating existing public health challenges.

Obesity may be one reason some countries or communities have been hit hard by the virus, researchers say. In the United States, the obesity rate among adults has climbed for decades and is now at 42%. The rate is even higher among Black and Hispanic Americans.

A person who is 5 feet, 7 inches tall is considered obese starting at around 190 pounds, or a body mass index of 30. The increased risk for serious COVID-19 illness appears more pronounced with extreme obesity, or a BMI of 40 or higher.

Researchers say multiple factors likely make it harder for people who are obese to fight a coronavirus infection, which can damage the lungs. Carrying around a lot of extra weight strains the body, and that excess fat could limit the lungs' ability to expand and breathe.

Another issue is chronic inflammation, which often comes with obesity. Inflammation is a natural way our bodies fight harmful intruders like viruses. But long-lasting inflammation isn’t healthy and could undermine your body’s defenses when a real threat arises.

“It’s like pouring gasoline on a smoldering fire,” said Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, an obesity researcher and dean of Tufts University's school of nutrition science and policy near Boston.

And even if people who are obese aren't diagnosed with diabetes or heart disease, Mozaffarian notes their health may not be optimal.

How fat is distributed in the body may play a role too. One study found an increased risk for death from COVID-19 for people with severe obesity, but only among men. The findings could reflect that men tend to carry fat around the stomach, said Sara Tartof, a co-author of the study who researches infectious diseases at Kaiser Permanente in Southern California. That type of fat is more associated with the production of a hormone that could be contributing to more severe illness, she said.

Scientists are also exploring whether there’s something specific about the coronavirus itself that makes the obese more susceptible to getting very sick.

For example, the virus infects cells by attaching to receptors on the surface of certain cells. That receptor is abundant on fat cells and scientists are studying whether that makes them “a good nest for the virus,” said Dr. Francois Pattou at the University of Lille in France, who has co-authored research on the link between obesity and severe COVID-19 illness.

Complications in care can arise once hospitalized, too. To help with breathing, for example, doctors have been putting patients hospitalized with COVID-19 on their stomachs. But that can be difficult for the obese, making it more likely they’re put on ventilators.

“They need a machine to help just do the work,” said Dr. David Kass of Baltimore's Johns Hopkins University, who has co-authored a study on obesity and severe COVID-19 illness.

Yet another concern: A COVID-19 vaccine may not be as effective for the obese, as seems to be the case with the flu and other vaccines.

Why that might be isn't known, but one possibility is that obesity impairs an aspect of the immune system that needs to be activated for vaccines to work, said Dr. Nancie MacIver, who researches how weight affects the immune system at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina. And she said whatever factors are at play would likely be applicable to a COVID-19 vaccine, but added that it is still important to get it.


The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Department of Science Education. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
Eleazar 02:33 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Spott:
The BMI thing only seems to apply if you don’t work out. The last time I checked one of those charts it said that I had to be under 158lbs (I’m 5’8”) to get out of the obese category. If you do any kind of working out you are going to build muscle mass and gain weight.
It's obviously not meant for people like athletes, with body fat percentages that are extremely low for their height and weight.
loochy 02:33 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
BMI works for average people of average builds. If you're of a different body type, it's not only useless, but can actually be harmful to try following.

I get bonus money in my HSA for completing "healthy actions". After filling out the health questionnaire, I always get "you are overweight - have you considered going on a diet?" It's the most asinine, blanket-statement BS.
Detoxing 02:36 PM 09-08-2020
Speaking of diets, i just shat out last night's Mango-Habenero wings. Damn that shit was spicy. The actual shit, not just the wings.
loochy 02:37 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Those aren't abs, fool. Them's your second pair of man-titties.

Eleazar 02:39 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:

From what I have seen if the average CPer looked like the guy on the left he'd be ecstatic. :-)
RunKC 02:42 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Have you tried it in drinks, such as coffee or tea? I love a nice hot beverage, but I'm thinking about swapping out the sugar calories, and honey can be a bit of a pain in the ass.
I use these in coffee every day. They don’t taste any different than regular syrups.
Just Passin' By 02:45 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I use these in coffee every day. They don’t taste any different than regular syrups.
I'll look into that. Thanks very much for the tip.
MahiMike 02:50 PM 09-08-2020
Every now and then, God gives us ways to thin the herd. We're not supposed to be fighting it.
KCUnited 03:04 PM 09-08-2020
Sounds like masks should be required for fat people while dining
loochy 03:05 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Sounds like masks should be required for fat people while dining

They'd just smoosh the gravy through the tiny pores in the mask,
Marcellus 03:14 PM 09-08-2020
Who knew being fat was bad for your health.
srvy 03:22 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Well, the larger your body, the more living tissue you have that requires oxygen, I would imagine.

But your lungs grow according to your non-obese body size, I would think. If you weight 50% more than you should, your lungs won’t have 50% greater capacity.

So you start with a disadvantage. A disease that reduces your lungs capacity to supply oxygen would seem like a likely candidate to be harder on the obese, from a laymen’s point of view.

Bill Maher is right. This country is too fat.
That's a lot of I imagine for a could have been a mensa society member. What a waste of time post. Have you ever thought to yourself that I got nothing so I should just :-)? Nope because you're mentos sucking fool.
HonestChieffan 03:25 PM 09-08-2020
no wonder Zach seems so tense, dude knows he is a Covid target
NinerDoug 04:48 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by srvy:
That's a lot of I imagine for a could have been a mensa society member. What a waste of time post. Have you ever thought to yourself that I got nothing so I should just :-)? Nope because you're mentos sucking fool.
Thank you for this enlightening commentary.

It's among the best I've seen from you! (Seriously).

I'm gonna guess you're a fat ass.
Merde Furieux 04:51 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
I've been banned from every COVID-19 related thread in the main forum for stating this fact since April.

Yeah, I remember that. It was the Global Warming fucktards. Same idiots.
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