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Eleazar 11:57 AM 09-08-2020
Doctors studying why obesity may be tied to serious COVID-19

By CANDICE CHOI
Associated Press
SEPTEMBER 8, 2020 ó 11:41AM



NEW YORK ó In the early days of the pandemic, doctors noticed something about the people severely ill from COVID-19: Many were obese.

The link became more apparent as coronavirus swept across the globe and data mounted, and researchers are still trying to figure out why.

Excess weight increases the chances of developing a number of health problems, including heart disease and diabetes. And those are among the conditions that can make COVID-19 patients more likely to get very sick.

But there's some evidence that obesity itself can increase the likelihood of serious complications from a coronavirus infection. One study of more than 5,200 infected people, including 35% who were obese, found that the chances of hospitalization rose for people with higher BMIs, even when taking into account other conditions that could put them at risk.

Scientists are still studying the factors that might be at play ó the way obesity affects the immune system may be one ó but say it's another example of the pandemic illuminating existing public health challenges.

Obesity may be one reason some countries or communities have been hit hard by the virus, researchers say. In the United States, the obesity rate among adults has climbed for decades and is now at 42%. The rate is even higher among Black and Hispanic Americans.

A person who is 5 feet, 7 inches tall is considered obese starting at around 190 pounds, or a body mass index of 30. The increased risk for serious COVID-19 illness appears more pronounced with extreme obesity, or a BMI of 40 or higher.

Researchers say multiple factors likely make it harder for people who are obese to fight a coronavirus infection, which can damage the lungs. Carrying around a lot of extra weight strains the body, and that excess fat could limit the lungs' ability to expand and breathe.

Another issue is chronic inflammation, which often comes with obesity. Inflammation is a natural way our bodies fight harmful intruders like viruses. But long-lasting inflammation isnít healthy and could undermine your bodyís defenses when a real threat arises.

ďItís like pouring gasoline on a smoldering fire,Ē said Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, an obesity researcher and dean of Tufts University's school of nutrition science and policy near Boston.

And even if people who are obese aren't diagnosed with diabetes or heart disease, Mozaffarian notes their health may not be optimal.

How fat is distributed in the body may play a role too. One study found an increased risk for death from COVID-19 for people with severe obesity, but only among men. The findings could reflect that men tend to carry fat around the stomach, said Sara Tartof, a co-author of the study who researches infectious diseases at Kaiser Permanente in Southern California. That type of fat is more associated with the production of a hormone that could be contributing to more severe illness, she said.

Scientists are also exploring whether thereís something specific about the coronavirus itself that makes the obese more susceptible to getting very sick.

For example, the virus infects cells by attaching to receptors on the surface of certain cells. That receptor is abundant on fat cells and scientists are studying whether that makes them ďa good nest for the virus,Ē said Dr. Francois Pattou at the University of Lille in France, who has co-authored research on the link between obesity and severe COVID-19 illness.

Complications in care can arise once hospitalized, too. To help with breathing, for example, doctors have been putting patients hospitalized with COVID-19 on their stomachs. But that can be difficult for the obese, making it more likely theyíre put on ventilators.

ďThey need a machine to help just do the work,Ē said Dr. David Kass of Baltimore's Johns Hopkins University, who has co-authored a study on obesity and severe COVID-19 illness.

Yet another concern: A COVID-19 vaccine may not be as effective for the obese, as seems to be the case with the flu and other vaccines.

Why that might be isn't known, but one possibility is that obesity impairs an aspect of the immune system that needs to be activated for vaccines to work, said Dr. Nancie MacIver, who researches how weight affects the immune system at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina. And she said whatever factors are at play would likely be applicable to a COVID-19 vaccine, but added that it is still important to get it.

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The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Instituteís Department of Science Education. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
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GloryDayz 01:21 PM 09-08-2020
I heard from a person who was with Kamala (who wishes to remain anonymous) that Kamala said this was something they were doing to kill-off people they don't like.

It's from an anonymous source so you know it's true.
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HemiEd 01:44 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by shitgoose:
Being obese compounds any potential health issue a person might experience.

Excessive sugar and processed carbohydrate intake is a far larger threat to the global population than COVID.
I spend a inordinate amount of time in medical facility lobbies these days since the Mrs. quit driving a few years ago.

I catch myself in shock at the percentage of people at these facilities that are morbidly obese. Even the nurses.

Not saying I am a lightweight, but I work very hard trying to not be one of them and it is a daily battle.

Our society didn't use to be this way, obese people were the rarity, kind of like the thin people are now.

Fast food use to be a rare treat, now it is looked on by many as a staple. Couple that with the sedentary free time choices that is the norm for many and I think it is a plausible explanation.
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ChiefsCountry 01:56 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
BMI of 30 is "obese", so if you're 6' tall that is > 240 lbs. To be "extremely obese" you'd need to be > 300 lbs.
BMI is a bunch of horseshit. I was classified obese in high school when I was skin and bones bean pole.
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Detoxing 02:03 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
BMI is a bunch of horseshit. I was classified obese in high school when I was skin and bones bean pole.
Now THAT sounds like bullshit.
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NJChiefsFan27 02:05 PM 09-08-2020
So according to many here this virus isn't a big deal as long as we isolate those who are at elevated risk like people who are older, obese, are immuno-compromised, or have some sort of respiratory condition. What's that, like 60-70% of the adult population? How is that supposed to work?
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loochy 02:07 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
So according to many here this virus isn't a big deal as long as we isolate those who are at elevated risk like people who are older, obese, are immuno-compromised, or have some sort of respiratory condition. What's that, like 60-70% of the adult population? How is that supposed to work?

Yeah, that always kind of made me chuckle...I'm pretty certain that well over half of the adult population is obese, has hypertension, or is type 2.
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Rain Man 02:19 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
So according to many here this virus isn't a big deal as long as we isolate those who are at elevated risk like people who are older, obese, are immuno-compromised, or have some sort of respiratory condition. What's that, like 60-70% of the adult population? How is that supposed to work?
Maybe we require that all stores and restaurants be built on the third floor, and the only way up is to outrace a 'down' escalator.
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RunKC 02:21 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
This actually leads to a question. Has anyone here experienced any bad effects from Stevia?
I switched to Erithrytol, Stevia and Monk Fruit and Iím shocked companies arenít using this instead of sugar.

Itís significantly healthier than regular sugar and you canít taste the difference if you put it into food and not just on its own.
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Eleazar 02:21 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Now THAT sounds like bullshit.
"Overweight" is BMI 25. A person could be overweight without being what passes for fat today, it would be a 6' tall man weighing 185. That same man would have to gain 30 pounds or so to be BMI 30 and "obese"
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Just Passin' By 02:23 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I switched to Erithrytol, Stevia and Monk Fruit and Iím shocked companies arenít using this instead of sugar.

Itís significantly healthier than regular sugar and you canít taste the difference if you put it into food and not just on its own.
Have you tried it in drinks, such as coffee or tea? I love a nice hot beverage, but I'm thinking about swapping out the sugar calories, and honey can be a bit of a pain in the ass.
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Eleazar 02:23 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I switched to Erithrytol, Stevia and Monk Fruit and Iím shocked companies arenít using this instead of sugar.

Itís significantly healthier than regular sugar and you canít taste the difference if you put it into food and not just on its own.
Don't see why people need sugar to begin with :-)
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loochy 02:25 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
"Overweight" is BMI 25. A person could be overweight without being what passes for fat today, it would be a 6' tall man weighing 185. That same man would have to gain 30 pounds or so to be BMI 30 and "obese"

I'm overweight with borderline visible abs (top 2 showing).


The BMI thing is a joke if you've ever done anything athletic in your life.
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Just Passin' By 02:27 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
I'm overweight with borderline visible abs (top 2 showing).


The BMI thing is a joke if you've ever done anything athletic in your life.

BMI works for average people of average builds. If you're of a different body type, it's not only useless, but can actually be harmful to try following.
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Spott 02:30 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
I'm overweight with borderline visible abs (top 2 showing).


The BMI thing is a joke if you've ever done anything athletic in your life.
The BMI thing only seems to apply if you donít work out. The last time I checked one of those charts it said that I had to be under 158lbs (Iím 5í8Ē) to get out of the obese category. If you do any kind of working out you are going to build muscle mass and gain weight.
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Detoxing 02:32 PM 09-08-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
I'm overweight with borderline visible abs (top 2 showing).


.
Those aren't abs, fool. Them's your second pair of man-titties.
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