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Washington DC and The Holy Land>"We will NEVER do any of these lockdowns again."~ Florida Gov Ron DeSantis
BucEyedPea 05:59 PM 09-02-2020
I Thank God he's my governor, and not one of those Nazis like RINO Baker, Cuomo, NJ's gov, Cuomo, Newsom and Witcher.

DeSantis for President in 2025!!!

Plus he has caramel colored hair. So I like lookin' at him, even if he's chubby!


No #lockdowns https://t.co/l5EEQphA4o

— Steve Pieczenik (@StevePieczenik) August 31, 2020

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BucEyedPea 05:59 PM 09-02-2020
The Hong Flu epidemic was worse than Covid and we didn't have any lockdowns.
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Pasta Giant Meatball 06:01 PM 09-02-2020
The lockdowns were obviously a disaster. Good for him.
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LOCOChief 06:01 PM 09-02-2020
We’re lucky to have him.
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NinerDoug 06:11 PM 09-02-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
I Thank God he's my governor, and not one of those Nazi like Baker, Cuomo, NJY's gov, Newsom and Witcher.

DeSantis for President in 2025!!!

Plus he has caramel colored hair. So I like lookin' at him, even if he's chubby!


Did they move the 2024 election to 2025 in Florida?

I think they may miss out.
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Shiver Me Timbers 06:14 PM 09-02-2020
Yes you are lucky.
envious.
I gotz myself a gov named jarred polis.
That is not his birth name. He changed his name when he was accused of some shit.
Look out. He is an "up-n-comer" in more ways than one...........

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com...ses-questions/
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BucEyedPea 06:16 PM 09-02-2020
Even Gov Abbot has fallen by the wayside now that he's accepted money from Google. He was good at one time, but sold-out to Globalist money.
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Randallflagg 06:23 PM 09-02-2020
Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers:
Yes you are lucky.
envious.
I gotz myself a gov named jarred polis.
That is not his birth name. He changed his name when he was accused of some shit.
Look out. He is an "up-n-comer" in more ways than one...........

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com...ses-questions/


I have a friend that lives in Colorado Springs - he's told me all about that clown. Says he travels the "Hershey Highway".........that's Colorado - the California of the East...
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Randallflagg 06:24 PM 09-02-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
The Hong Flu epidemic was worse than Covid and we didn't have any lockdowns.

Indeed. Americans are slowly coming around to this nonsense that our "leaders" are pushing on the populace...
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SuperBowl4 06:25 PM 09-02-2020
Didn't "your" governor take a trip to ISRAEL last year for a "cabinet meeting" and stayed at a $400 a night hotel for five nights thanks to you and your fellow taxpayers? I think a Tampa Bay and Miami newspaper filed a lawsuit against him for going. http://youtu.be/CHY_DDnZryQ Always the Photo op at the wailing wall. When Ronnie came back from his trip to ISRAEL he officially signed into law legislation against anti-semitism in Florida's public schools and Universities. Ronnie did this within a week from his return. LOOK CLOSER - I'm sure Ronnie supports all those wars in the Middle East - I'm happy 4 U - :-) Ronnie could B A Neo Con
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BucEyedPea 08:22 PM 09-02-2020
That's not the topic of this thread. It's about doing lockdowns.. Ya' know, how he actually is managing my state regarding lockdowns. Something that affects me greatly. Capiche?
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SuperBowl4 05:56 AM 09-03-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
That's not the topic of this thread. It's about doing lockdowns.. Ya' know, how he actually is managing my state regarding lockdowns. Something that affects me greatly. Capiche?
The BUCS first two home games are without fans. :-)
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Merde Furieux 09:19 AM 09-16-2020
The evidence shows the coronavirus is not what we feared it might be. It is not the Medical Armageddon we closed down our economy to avoid. As a result we just hot our Economy in the foot. Lockdowns probably achieved very little – aside from wrecking whole swathes of industry, business and commerce.

Covid-19 is serious, it makes many people very ill, and it has culled large number of vulnerable people. Many people remain in danger. But it is not the Big One. It is not a repeat of the 1918 Spanish Flu or the Black Death. The story of the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic started with the assumption it was going to be a global disaster killing millions, but it’s turned out to be something very different and less threatening.

We should be thankful for that. The Big One is surely still coming. What we’ve experienced over the last months allows us to figure out what worked and what didn’t for next time. Hopefully we can face the tragedy and challenges of the next real pandemic without creating economic misery as well. At some point mankind will accidently unleash a new SARs or other virus that could kill millions. COVID-19 wasn’t the killer we thought it might be.

But….

The facts, science and data around Covid have been evolving ever since March, but the narrative surrounding it has barely changed. It still dominates the news flow as if it was killing millions rather than a few. It is influencing policy, markets, economies and everyone's daily lifes to a more massive extent than is justified.

For all the flaff of lockdowns, working from home, the dangers of kids going back to university and everything else the corona-Nazis fulminate about – there is actually far far less risk around Covid than the “received” narrative continues to scare us with. The lower threat-level, the real numbers and the real risks can be explained by science. It’s the real data and real science that should have driven the reaction – but, that’s not the way our emotions handle threat. It’s not how politics handles reality. The media isn’t excited by a “this isn’t as bad as we thought it was” story. Politicians don’t generally accept they might have been wrong – even though experience teaches us Boris invariably is…

As the virus struck, like most people I accepted the need for Lockdown – but the data and evidence I read and weighed yesterday shocked and surprised me. I don’t like surprises when it comes to markets and the economy. Niether should investors.

Reality is that Lockdown achieved little. The Swedes were right and we were wrong. We have shattered out economy for little gain. Some careful social distancing and pragmatic shielding would have achieved similar or better results.

I suspect large swathes of the market don’t yet understand that. They still think the prospects for global growth depend on the magic of a vaccine being found.

To understand why we’ve all be dragged along by Lockdown we need to understand government and policy. It’s looking clear the whole pandemic response has been a chronic over-reaction – but governments didn’t do it deliberately. For a start, they acted in unison – meaning when some other country locked-down, they looked over their shoulders and did the same. Why? To avoid the charge of complacency if they didn’t. The Swedes took enormous international criticism when they didn’t – but stuck with their own plan. Well done them!

Since January when Covid entered the public domain I’ve diligently followed the news on coronavirus. I’ve considered and opined on successive policy announcements. I ploughed through the now discredited Imperial College report that triggered western lockdown – and its predictions of 500k UK deaths.

I will admit as the spring turned to summer the briefings were getting tediously boring. I found myself scanning the coronavirus in minutes rather than hours. As I warned of the economic disaster unfolding around us – I found myself focusing less on the virus but more on the failures in terms of PPE provision, the avoidable deaths in care-homes, and the search for a vaccine. Vaccine rumour and sigh was far more interesting as a major factor driving the market.

Governments have not acted maliciously. They tried to do the right thing. But they are politicians. At some point early in the pandemic the UK government recognised the worst possible outcome would be the vision of failing hospitals on the TV. I suspect avoiding the impression of crisis became the political imperative behind lockdown and fright campaign – save our NHS. The economy and jobs took second place as we clapped the NHS each Thursday evening. It became overly emotional.

How silly will government look if we didn’t need all that emotional twaddle?

I suspect everyone else was looking at much the same stuff. Economies being scared into slowdown. Failures to put in place coherent strategy. As governments put bailouts, rescue packages, furloughs and helicopter money programmes in place we focused on the economic consequences of massive fiscal and monetary stimulus.

Which meant we looked less and less at the virus. Like how the numbers from each nation all showed the same fast peak and slow down slope. How the virus had peaked in Northern Europe and North USA by early summer and how numbers were falling because the virus has run out of victims. How the virus in Southern states and elsewhere behaved differently – but predictably.

The numbers show Sweden’s decision not to lockdown has made zero difference relative to other nations. The data shows the effects of the Virus are much like a bad flu. Its now clear the virus is a significant danger to a limited number within any population – the elderly and a those with co-morbidities. We increasingly understand the consequences of the medical focus on the virus will trigger a host of other deaths as a result.

One final caveat: We can’t be certain of anything to do with COVID, or issues like herd-immunity or reinfections, till we get much better testing data – both who has it and who has had the virus. However, it does look like places like Sweden, London and New York have achieved effective herd-immunity on the simple basis there are few people still to be infected!

I now reckon Lockdown has been a terrible mistake – done for all the right reasons, but without understanding the data or science. The challenge now is to change the politics, get economies reopen, figure out and ameliorate the real economic damage, and deal with the consequences created by monetary and fiscal crisis spending… it might take a while..

https://morningporridge.com/the-morn...ckdown-mistake
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Donger 09:23 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
The Hong Flu epidemic was worse than Covid and we didn't have any lockdowns.
When did this "Hong Flu" epidemic take place, or are you making things up again?
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MahiMike 09:29 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
The Hong Flu epidemic was worse than Covid and we didn't have any lockdowns.
Yup.

Watching the ABC Trump Town Hall last night, I was thinking what I'd say to Trump if I was there. Goes something like this:

"Hello President Trump. First of all, I want to thank you for working so hard for the American people and congratulate you on the job you've done so far. It was impossible to know that 99.7% of people would not be affected by the China virus but now that we know this, do you regret shutting the country down? And do you think keeping Fauci around was a wise move?".
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