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Washington DC and The Holy Land>CDC admits they exaggerated the COVID-19 death count by 1600%
Hammock Parties 09:36 PM 08-29-2020
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

Originally Posted by :
The CDC just admitted that of 154,503 people who have died from COVID-19, only six percent, or roughly 9,210 have actually died from the virus.

CDC revises its numbers. 6% of deaths due to Covid19. 94% of cases involved 2-3 comorbidities and advanced age. That means there were 9,210 covid deaths. We’re crushing our kids, our economy and people’s livelihoods. ⁦@GovMikeDeWine⁩ is to blame. pic.twitter.com/aBb2XOXdpG

— Robin Baxter (@robin_baxter) August 30, 2020

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Donger 10:38 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/healt...-bn/index.html


Shaid just says whatever he thinks sounds best at the particular moment. I don't even think he realizes when he lies because it just flows out of him so naturally. It's almost instinctual.
Oops:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths

Can you explain why the estimates on this page are different from previously published and reported estimates for 2017-2018? (For example, total flu-related deaths during 2017-2018 was previously estimated to be 79,000, but the current estimate is 61,000)?

The estimates on this page have been updated from an earlier report published in December 2018 based on more recently available information. There is a trade-off between timeliness and accuracy of the burden estimates. To provide timely burden estimates to the public, clinicians, and public health decision-makers, we use preliminary data that may lead to over- or under-estimates of the true burden. However, each season’s estimates will be finalized when data on testing practices and deaths for that season are available.

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Donger 10:48 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
And the flu, particularly H1N1 was extremley hard on the young and healthy...
Have you compared the numbers between H1N1 deaths and COVID-19 among the young and healthy?
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Shaid 11:34 AM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Oops:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths

Can you explain why the estimates on this page are different from previously published and reported estimates for 2017-2018? (For example, total flu-related deaths during 2017-2018 was previously estimated to be 79,000, but the current estimate is 61,000)?

The estimates on this page have been updated from an earlier report published in December 2018 based on more recently available information. There is a trade-off between timeliness and accuracy of the burden estimates. To provide timely burden estimates to the public, clinicians, and public health decision-makers, we use preliminary data that may lead to over- or under-estimates of the true burden. However, each season’s estimates will be finalized when data on testing practices and deaths for that season are available.
Don't be muddying the water with all these facts. They don't want to hear them.
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Bowser 03:28 PM 09-16-2020
:-)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisone.../#351f67206eea

I'm not sure which is better - Fauci saying anyone over 6' tall is more susceptible to WuFlu, we should be wearing goggles to avoid catching WuFlu, or this garbage.
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Marcellus 03:31 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Shaid:
Don't be muddying the water with all these facts. They don't want to hear them.
You want to discuss facts? Like the average age of death from Corona or the mortality rate below the age of 65? You want to discuss those facts and why the lock down/shutdown at this point makes no sense because of those facts?
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Shaid 03:51 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You want to discuss facts? Like the average age of death from Corona or the mortality rate below the age of 65? You want to discuss those facts and why the lock down/shutdown at this point makes no sense because of those facts?
More old people also die of the flu. More people with comorbidities also die of the flu. Doesn't mean they didn't die of the flu.

Just over 60k deaths in our worst flu season of the past decade, we're about to hit 200k deaths in half a year. Doesn't mean we need to shut everything down but acting like it's no big deal is bullshit.

Wearing a mask helps. Not completely, but it helps. Knowing the facts helps, it lets you make informed decisions. Lying or "downplaying" it doesn't. That's a fact. Unless you'd rather be lied to.
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Donger 03:54 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Shaid:
More old people also die of the flu. More people with comorbidities also die of the flu. Doesn't mean they didn't die of the flu.

Just over 60k deaths in our worst flu season of the past decade, we're about to hit 200k deaths in half a year. Doesn't mean we need to shut everything down but acting like it's no big deal is bullshit.

Wearing a mask helps. Not completely, but it helps. Knowing the facts helps, it lets you make informed decisions. Lying or "downplaying" it doesn't. That's a fact. Unless you'd rather be lied to.
Also, we're about to hit 200,000 deaths and that is WITH our mitigation efforts, such as they were/are. I don't want think what it would be without those efforts.
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Just Passin' By 04:19 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Shaid:
More old people also die of the flu. More people with comorbidities also die of the flu. Doesn't mean they didn't die of the flu.

Just over 60k deaths in our worst flu season of the past decade, we're about to hit 200k deaths in half a year. Doesn't mean we need to shut everything down but acting like it's no big deal is bullshit.

Wearing a mask helps. Not completely, but it helps. Knowing the facts helps, it lets you make informed decisions. Lying or "downplaying" it doesn't. That's a fact. Unless you'd rather be lied to.

To repeat the number, while pointing to a different source, because Shaid is still lying about the number:




Originally Posted by :
The Associated Press · Posted: Sep 26, 2018 6:01 PM ET | Last Updated: September 26, 2018


An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter
— the disease's highest death toll in at least four decades.

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Robert Redfield, revealed the total in an interview Tuesday night with The Associated Press.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-d...nter-1.4839917

Shaid just says whatever he thinks sounds best at the particular moment. I don't even think he realizes when he lies because it just flows out of him so naturally. It's almost instinctual.
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Merde Furieux 04:22 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Also, we're about to hit 200,000 deaths and that is WITH our mitigation efforts, such as they were/are. I don't want think what it would be without those efforts.
You keep using this body count as if those people wouldn't have died anyway, this year, with or without the BS Covid scam.
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Shaid 04:24 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
To repeat the number, while pointing to a different source, because Shaid is still lying about the number:






https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-d...nter-1.4839917

Shaid just says whatever he thinks sounds best at the particular moment. I don't even think he realizes when he lies because it just flows out of him so naturally. It's almost instinctual.

CDC website
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.

Keep being wrong bitch.
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Donger 04:30 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Merde Furieux:
You keep using this body count as if those people wouldn't have died anyway, this year, with or without the BS Covid scam.
Someone hasn't bothered to look at the excess deaths that we've already experienced this year...
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Donger 04:31 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Shaid:
CDC website
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.

Keep being wrong bitch.
Give him this:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

and be sure to use really big font...

:-)
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Merde Furieux 04:33 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Someone hasn't bothered to look at the excess deaths that we've already experienced this year...
Based on BS numbers. The real numbers come out in about 3 years, asshole. Of course, it won't matter to you, then. You just need your BS narrative for the next 48 days. Personally, I think you are wasting your time, fool. The die has been cast.
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Donger 04:34 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Merde Furieux:
Based on BS numbers. The real numbers come out in about 3 years, asshole. Of course, it won't matter to you, then. You just need your BS narrative for the next 48 days. Personally, I think you are wasting your time, fool. The die has been cast.
What makes you think they are BS number, wacko?
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Merde Furieux 04:37 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
What makes you think they are BS number, wacko?
I've wasted enough time on your greasy ass. I told you, we have to wait a few years for the hard data.


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