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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Will Joe Biden debate Trump?
Pogue 04:58 PM 06-19-2020

There is no way they are putting Joe Biden on a debate stage.

It is simply not going to happen.

— Jeremy Boreing (@JeremyDBoreing) June 19, 2020

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Bwana 11:14 PM 06-19-2020
Originally Posted by Pogue:






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Chief Northman 02:43 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
Iím not a huge fan of that label, I donít need a word to express that I donít believe in Santa Clause.


And I donít need a god to understand what things are moral or immoral.
No you donít.

But you sure as hell have bashed believers here for years who just might see their faith as a way to navigate a troubled world. Even if religion/God was discovered to be bullshit - those who lived their lives striving to adhere to a certain degree of morality likely found humility and peace in doing so, and are better for it.
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Ninerfan11 03:30 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:


And I donít need a god to understand what things are moral or immoral.
Society does. You're seeing the results of nihilism on the left. Cancer.
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eDave 04:24 AM 06-20-2020

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lawrenceRaider 05:05 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
I read this on another forum but a debate between these two is going to sound like an argument between a dot matrix printer and modem dial-up tone.
Trump/Biden debates should be hysterically funny.

What are the odds that Biden tries to challenge Trump to a fight once Trump starts really needling him in one of these?
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lawrenceRaider 05:07 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Well, Trump does have a great brain and the best words... And Biden seems to not even be capable of stringing a coherent sentence together in a campaign ad.

:-)

What is wrong with you people?

They will be the most cringe-worthy events in American history.
Two angry old men scream at sky, fight each other, and fail to do any pushups.

What won't be fun about that?
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VAChief 07:05 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Honest question to you as a Biden supporter: Do you feel it is in Bidenís best interest to speak in public?

You have a point though. A tightly scripted format with response times limited to 60 seconds and heavily moderated to protect Biden is the likely Dem strategy. If they have the necessary pull. Iím not sure who controls the format and mods for each debate.
Heís not as sharp as he was, but I think he can handle Trump, as long as it doesnít devolve into Grumpy Old Men III.
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GloryDayz 07:32 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
ďWe will make this simple: like every other Democratic and Republican candidate since 1992, we will show up for the debates set by the Commission on Presidential Debates, at the places they have selected, on the dates they have selected, with the formats and moderators they designate ó so long as Donald Trump does the same, and does not intimidate the Commission into changes from past practices,Ē she said.

The Trump campaign confirmed to The Hill on Thursday that it has drafted the presidentís personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to push for further debates beyond the planned three between Trump and Biden and a single debate between Vice President Pence and Bidenís vice presidential nominee.
Ah, there's their out...
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BigCatDaddy 07:39 AM 06-20-2020
I just see Biden losing what's left of his mind in stage.

https://gfycat.com/afraidboilingduck
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GloryDayz 07:51 AM 06-20-2020
I said no, just because I like pleasant surprises...
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DJJasonp 08:06 AM 06-20-2020
please god.......in a year full of nonsense, let the people have their cake.

Tiger king was good, but that's over.......the public needs this.

And by the way....how many times do you think Trump will say "WRONG!"?
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BigCatDaddy 08:11 AM 06-20-2020
Originally Posted by DJJasonp:
please god.......in a year full of nonsense, let the people have their cake.

Tiger king was good, but that's over.......the public needs this.

And by the way....how many times do you think Trump will say "WRONG!"?
Well with Biden speaking probably A LOT.
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Lex Luthor 08:12 AM 06-20-2020
Trump supporters should be careful about raising the issue of dementia. Alzheimer's disease runs in Trump's family, and he is already showing signs of it.

Originally Posted by :
Like Father, Like Son. The Troubling Problem of Dementia in Trumpís White House


For many years prior to his death in 1999, Fred Trump, Donald Trumpís father, suffered from Alzheimerís disease. Even though he suffered from this deadly form of dementia, Fred Trump clung to his position as chairman of the board of Trump Management until he died at the age of 93, according to his obituary in the New York Times. While people who have a family history of dementia are at increased risk, the biggest risk factor for dementia is age. Trump, who will be 73 years old on June 14, 2019, was the oldest person ever elected as President to a first term. The second oldest was Ronald Reagan, who was diminished by Alzheimerís disease while he served as President. According to a study published in the journal Neuroepidemiology, about one in seven Americans over age seventy has dementia. Just as he followed his fatherís footsteps into the real estate business, Trump also is following his father into the inescapable labyrinth of dementia. Just as his father would not let go of his position at the top of Trump Management even when he was dying from dementia, Trump will never stop clinging to his position as President of the United States no matter how mentally debilitated he is.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control define dementia as ď a decline in mental ability severe enough to interfere with daily life.Ē It can be divided into three stages: preclinical, Mild Cognitive Impairment (MCI), and advanced. In the preclinical stage, significant symptoms are not yet obvious. According to the National Institutes on Aging, Mild Cognitive Impairment includes ďsymptoms of memory and/or other thinking problems that are greater than normal for a personís age and education, but that do not interfere with his or her independence.Ē In advanced dementia, symptoms of memory loss, word finding difficulty and other diminished brain function are so serious that individuals have difficulty living independently. As a result of the slow progression of their disease and death from other maladies, many people with Mild Cognitive Impairment never reach the advanced stage of dementia.

Trump can be diagnosed with Mild Cognitive Impairment because he is constantly in the public eye such that anyone who knows what to look for can see the signs and symptoms of Trumpís disease. He has many symptoms of Mild Cognitive Impairment, including poor memory, word finding difficulty, slurred speech, linguistic decline, irritability, depression, mental confusion, lack of restraint, inexplicable lying, poor occupational performance, impaired judgment and paranoia.

In a speech announcing his decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in December of 2017, for example, Trump severely slurred his words. While a White House spokesperson claimed his slurring was due to dry mouth, the severity of the slurring was inconsistent with this explanation and was more likely caused a Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA). In another speech this April to the Republican Jewish Coalition, Trump again slurred his words at one section, although less severely than he did in the 2017 episode. Trump has made numerous other rambling and incoherent speeches throughout his candidacy and presidency, including a famously incoherent speech declaring that there was a national emergency at the Mexican border. Experts in linguistics and psychology, who have compared Trumpís recorded statements in the 1990ís with more recent statements, have documented his marked linguistic decline. Trouble with word finding, including the confusion of names, is a signature form of linguistic decline typically found in the middle stage of dementia. Trump referred to Apple CEO Tim Cook as ďTim AppleĒ at a White House event in March. TIAs, as well as many small strokes, are caused by reduced blood flow to the brain, and are associated with the second most common cause of dementia ó vascular dementia. This form of dementia often co-exists with other types of dementia, including Alzheimerís, Lewy body dementia and Parkinsonís disease. Trump very likely suffers from mid-stage vascular dementia, and possibly also suffers from the early effects of Alzheimerís. While Trump currently remains capable of speaking at great length, he unfortunately suffers from substantial neurocognitive decline that is certain to get worse.

We cannot predict precisely how Trumpís cognitive decline will interact with his well documented personality disorders. Based on many of Trumpís own statements as well as dozens of accusations of criminal activity, many psychological and psychiatric experts have concluded that Trump suffers from malignant narcissism and antisocial personality disorder. Disinhibition and agitation-paranoia are two common effects of dementia that can worsen behavior associated with antisocial personality disorder. If Trumpís dementia significantly damages his pre-frontal cortex, his impaired capacity to inhibit antisocial impulses may well be further diminished. Trumpís dementia also puts him at substantially increased risk of delusional thinking and aggressively agitated behavior. A delusion has been defined as ďan unshakable theory or belief in something false and impossible, despite evidence to the contrary.Ē Trumpís asserted belief in the birther theory, his claims that climate change is a hoax and false claims that his father was born in Germany could all be delusions, or they could be lies related to his cognitive impairment and personality disorders. While we cannot predict with precision how Trump will act, we can say with certainty that any decisions he makes will be products of his impaired brain and his disordered personality. The physical and psychological chaos between Trumpís ears are mirrored by chaos in the White House. We are in a period of extreme danger because of this.
https://medium.com/@whitfieldlarrabe...e-1ed5b7f232d2

2020 Becomes the Dementia Campaign

Does Donald Trump have frontal lobe dementia?
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Pogue 11:00 PM 07-08-2020
And so it begins....

Originally Posted by :

Biden Should Not Debate Trump Unless …


I worry about Joe Biden debating Donald Trump. He should do it only under two conditions. Otherwise, he’s giving Trump unfair advantages.

First, Biden should declare that he will take part in a debate only if Trump releases his tax returns for 2016 through 2018. Biden has already done so, and they are on his website. Trump must, too. No more gifting Trump something he can attack while hiding his own questionable finances.

And second, Biden should insist that a real-time fact-checking team approved by both candidates be hired by the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates — and that 10 minutes before the scheduled conclusion of the debate this team report on any misleading statements, phony numbers or outright lies either candidate had uttered. That way no one in that massive television audience can be misled.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/o...mp-debate.html
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cosmo20002 11:08 PM 07-08-2020
Originally Posted by Pogue:
And so it begins....



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/o...mp-debate.html
"Biden should insist that a real-time fact-checking team approved by both candidates be hired by the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates"

I suggested real-time fact checking a while ago. Lying is one area where no one can compete with Trump.
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