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Nzoner's Game Room>Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT
Sofa King 01:40 PM 02-10-2021
Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)



https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt


It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.


If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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Tribal Warfare 02:17 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
He’s under contract. The fuck are you talking about?

Next year is his contract year which would've been this year if it wasn't for the opt out
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htismaqe 02:24 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Chiefs have no choice but to get rid of both.

One way or the other, it will happen.
They don't have a choice but to keep them.

They're both under contract and finished the season injured.

They can't be cut.

The players hold all the cards.
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htismaqe 02:24 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Next year is his contract year which would've been this year if it wasn't for the opt out
He'll be here in 2021.
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Tribal Warfare 02:26 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He'll be here in 2021.
Yes, and it's his last year of his contract too which is what I was inferring
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The Franchise 02:27 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Yes, and it's his last year of his contract too which is what I was inferring
So he’s going to hold out for more money in his final year?
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htismaqe 02:30 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Yes, and it's his last year of his contract too which is what I was inferring
Clay said they should cut him. I don't think there's much of a chance of that.

Do you? Or are you just saying they should wait out his contract and move on after next season?
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Hammock Parties 02:31 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They don't have a choice but to keep them.
They won't be here. The Chiefs can't afford them. Look at the cap FFS.

Injury settlement with both players most likely.
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Tribal Warfare 02:31 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
So he’s going to hold out for more money in his final year?
Never thought of that, but considering his family situation that could happen
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The Franchise 02:32 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Never thought of that, but considering his family situation that could happen
I highly doubt that’s how it happens. He opted out. He’s still under contract. If he holds out....then he can get cut.
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htismaqe 02:34 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
They won't be here. The Chiefs can't afford them. Look at the cap FFS.

Injury settlement with both players most likely.
A "settlement" requires the consent of both parties.

You do realize the Chiefs can't reach an injury settlement unilaterally, right?

I know what their cap hits are. I also know that the Chiefs can't do anything until

1) the players are healthy and can be cut or
2) the players themselves decide to do something.
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Hammock Parties 02:35 PM 02-10-2021
It really doesn't matter. This is the simplest way for them to clear the money that they need to clear.

You got a better way? :-)
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Tribal Warfare 02:36 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Clay said they should cut him. I don't think there's much of a chance of that.

Do you? Or are you just saying they should wait out his contract and move on after next season?

I'm saying that the Chiefs need to look at drafting or signing his replacement, because Damien shouldn't be in the plans after 2021
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The Franchise 02:36 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
It really doesn't matter. This is the simplest way for them to clear the money that they need to clear.

You got a better way? :-)
Extend Mathieu.
Extend Hill.
Restructure Mahomes.
Restructure Jones.

Want me to keep going?
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Hammock Parties 02:41 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Extend Mathieu.
Extend Hill.
Restructure Mahomes.
Restructure Jones.

Want me to keep going?
They're probably going to have to do this as well as cut these two OTs.

Remember, cutting them only gets you barely below the cap.

I'd say you see Veach cut both OTs and do 2-3 deal restructures/extensions in order to bring in Brown and some other free agents.

This will be a fun offseason.

But make no mistake - getting rid of Fisher AND Schwartz will be the key.

And it will happen.
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Kman34 02:42 PM 02-10-2021
Mitch will retire and yes I believe we will part ways with Fisher with an injury settlement.. Cap space will have to be made somehow and there too many health questions with these two..
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