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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

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Pants 03:15 PM 09-15-2020
Deaths are worse than cases.

In fact, I would go as far as to say deaths are the worst.
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O.city 03:15 PM 09-15-2020
Deaths follow hospitalizations which follow cases. We have had a spike in cases but deaths didn't follow this time.

Now some will say we got better treating it, etc. Which we did.

But I also think we didn't catch anywhere NEAR the number of cases that occurred in the spring. I'm guessing we caught maybe 1 in 20.
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Donger 03:16 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
Deaths are worse than cases.

In fact, I would go as far as to say deaths are the worst.
Trying not to laugh...
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Pants 03:17 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Deaths follow hospitalizations which follow cases. We have had a spike in cases but deaths didn't follow this time.

Now some will say we got better treating it, etc. Which we did.

But I also think we didn't catch anywhere NEAR the number of cases that occurred in the spring. I'm guessing we caught maybe 1 in 20.
That's also the feeling I get. I am also thinking there are different strains with some being much less deadly than others.
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O.city 03:18 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
That's also the feeling I get. I am also thinking there are different strains with some being much less deadly than others.
I dont' know about that. It's pretty quick for that to be it.

We were catching 20k cases per day back in April. I'm guessing there were actually about 200k atleast. Especially in hard hit areas.
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Donger 03:18 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Deaths follow hospitalizations which follow cases. We have had a spike in cases but deaths didn't follow this time.

Now some will say we got better treating it, etc. Which we did.

But I also think we didn't catch anywhere NEAR the number of cases that occurred in the spring. I'm guessing we caught maybe 1 in 20.
Deaths actually did increase after the spike we saw in mid-June, but thankfully not like we saw in March/April, yes.

If we've had 140,000,000 infections, surely we'd start seeing a pretty consistent and rather dramatic decrease in cases pretty soon, no?
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O.city 03:20 PM 09-15-2020
I dont' think they followed because the spike in FEB/MAR/APR was so massive.
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Donger 03:23 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I dont' think they followed because the spike in FEB/MAR/APR was so massive.
I don't follow. You are saying that there wasn't an increase in deaths from the spike in case growth in mid-June through late July?
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O.city 03:26 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I don't follow. You are saying that there wasn't an increase in deaths from the spike in case growth in mid-June through late July?
No, I didn't portray that very well.

I think the deaths were so high then vs now not because of just better treatment, but overall then there were way more cases than there even are now we just didn't catch them.
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O.city 03:27 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Deaths actually did increase after the spike we saw in mid-June, but thankfully not like we saw in March/April, yes.

If we've had 140,000,000 infections, surely we'd start seeing a pretty consistent and rather dramatic decrease in cases pretty soon, no?
Problem is, it wasn't widespread then. The hard hit areas are staying and keeping pretty low case wise. Areas not hit, aren't.
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O.city 03:29 PM 09-15-2020
I don't think it's an outlandish statement to say that we've likely had 100 million infections at this point.
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Donger 03:29 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Problem is, it wasn't widespread then. The hard hit areas are staying and keeping pretty low case wise. Areas not hit, aren't.
You still think that places like NY have reached herd immunity?
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O.city 03:31 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You still think that places like NY have reached herd immunity?
I think so.

Look at other areas hard hit. Same thing happens it seems no matter what restrictions they put on afterwards.

We'll soon find out. NYC last I saw had a positive test rate at or below 1 percent which IIRC is within the range of all the tests being false positives.
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Donger 03:37 PM 09-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think so.

Look at other areas hard hit. Same thing happens it seems no matter what restrictions they put on afterwards.

We'll soon find out. NYC last I saw had a positive test rate at or below 1 percent which IIRC is within the range of all the tests being false positives.
I guess we'll find out nationally over the next few months.
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Donger 04:18 PM 09-15-2020
Israel is going into a second nationwide lockdown over Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/middl...ntl/index.html
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