Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
In my county of 1.1 million in the SF east Bay Area we have 88 in hospitals for Covid.....down from a July high of 110. (which coincided with a multistory convalescent hospital having a huge covid breakout) The county is relaxing previous restrictions again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
lewdog have you noticed any loss of lung capacity? Did you do any kind of hard cardio stuff before, and if so are you back to the same level?
You think the Coronavirus could stop Lew. Lew eats pussies like the Coronavirus for breakfast. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
There is nobody fear mongering here.
I don't think your post was fear mongering. I do think though there are people who grab every potential negative story and react as if it is the end of the world and at the same time take ever potential positive story and act like "that's just one instance, doesn't count".
Know what I mean?
Like 1 person possibly gets re-infected and people go "SEE! SEE!!!" and they lose sight of how many have not been re-infected. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I don't think your post was fear mongering. I do think though there are people who grab every potential negative story and react as if it is the end of the world and at the same time take ever potential positive story and act like "that's just one instance, doesn't count".
Know what I mean?
Like 1 person possibly gets re-infected and people go "SEE! SEE!!!" and they lose sight of how many have not been re-infected.
Yes I know what you mean and I welcome positive news. I have been trying to balance posting bad news with good news like vaccines.
In regards to re-infections we are still early in learning about covid so I don't think people getting re-infected should shock anyone. My hope is that if you get re-infected you may not know it or be minor like a cold. [Reply]
I think I've stated this before, but I have a theory on Missouri's higher positivity count.
Missouri was doing a large amount of community testing up until about a month ago when they seemingly just stopped. The numbers at these sites typically were a large number of tests done, with very low positive cases.
I'm curious if this is playing a role in the number of positives we're seeing now? [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
I think I've stated this before, but I have a theory on Missouri's higher positivity count.
Missouri was doing a large amount of community testing up until about a month ago when they seemingly just stopped. The numbers at these sites typically were a large number of tests done, with very low positive cases.
I'm curious if this is playing a role in the number of positives we're seeing now?
From my understanding and I could be wrong but when the positivity rate was going up they would go into rural communities with very little infection present to do community testing. Which is fine but many people think they were doing that to bring the % positivity down.
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
From my understanding and I could be wrong but when the positivity rate was going up they would go into rural communities with very little infection present to do community testing. Which is fine but many people think they were doing that to bring the % positivity down.
I take it that is what you are inferring?
I'm not inferring they were doing it intentionally, (or maybe they were hell idk). I'm saying the low % positive was a byproduct of them mass testing areas and getting like 30 positive cases out of 2500 tests [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
I'm not inferring they were doing it intentionally, (or maybe they were hell idk). I'm saying the low % positive was a byproduct of them mass testing areas and getting like 30 positive cases out of 2500 tests
Yeah we are on the same page, I don't know if they were doing it intentionally or not. But I wouldn't be surprised because they were trying to keep the positivity rate down to justify reopening. [Reply]
