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The Dumbass Lounge>Off Season Lets Talk Guns, Part 2
HonestChieffan 11:58 AM 01-23-2011
Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?
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htismaqe 10:17 PM 09-25-2020
Originally Posted by LiveSteam:
Nylon 66 Mohawk.
It's my dad's. I shot a lot of squirrels with it when I was a kid.
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LiveSteam 10:21 PM 09-25-2020
Its been decades since i shot one.
They load from the butts stock?
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Fish 10:53 PM 09-25-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
One of the most fun little guns to shoot...

Another fun plinker gun to shoot. Older cousin bought one for me at K-Mart for really cheap way way back in the day because I was too young at the time. But honestly, if I had to choose between the two, I'd go with the 10/22 every time for pretty much every single reason. Parts for nylon 66 are impossible to find. Teardown and cleaning is infinitely more difficult. Zylon nylon wears down and degrades over time, and much of the rifle was made of that, including many important parts which reduced the overall lifespan dramatically compared to a 10/22. Fun to shoot, and lightweight for sure. But the 10/22 is still a much more reliable and long lasting platform. The nylon 66 was meant to be a dirt cheap offering that wasn't expected to be a forever gun. The 10/22 absolutely is.
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htismaqe 10:54 PM 09-25-2020
Originally Posted by Fish:
Another fun plinker gun to shoot. Bought one at K-Mart for really cheap way back in the day. But honestly, if I had to choose between the two, I'd go with the 10/22 every time for pretty much every single reason. Parts for nylon 66 are impossible to find. Teardown and cleaning is infinitely more difficult. Zylon nylon wears down and degrades over time, and much of the rifle was made of that, including many important parts which reduced the overall lifespan dramatically compared to a 10/22. Fun to shoot, and lightweight for sure. But the 10/22 is still a much more reliable and long lasting platform. The nylon 66 was meant to be a dirt cheap offering that wasn't expected to be a forever gun. The 10/22 absolutely is.
My dad has had his for a good 40 years. :-)
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Fish 11:09 PM 09-25-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
My dad has had his for a good 40 years. :-)
Not trying to talk down on it. I'm sure it's worked fine for 40 years. But still, it's constructed of a nylon stock DUCO glued to the nylon receiver. That's how they saved money. It was always meant to be a cheap alternative.
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htismaqe 11:13 PM 09-25-2020
Originally Posted by Fish:
Not trying to talk down on it. I'm sure it's worked fine for 40 years. But still, it's constructed of a nylon stock DUCO glued to the nylon receiver. That's how they saved money. It was always meant to be a cheap alternative.
I know, just giving you a hard time. It's still a fun gun but yeah, it's cheap.
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srvy 11:23 PM 09-25-2020
I am the proud owner of my Dads Marlin 39 A mountie carbine early 1960s circa.


My son possesses my old Ruger 10/22 a sweet tac driving plinker. We like to shoot shit and occasionally squirrels at the farm. I was never much for the taste of squirrel my son is the same. Sadly he just doesn't really enjoy the outdoor woodsman ways like his Dad. I hoped he would but he would rather shoot guns on computer games. He does it because he knows I like it. He does love to stump shoot with selfbows I have made and he generally is trying to learn to make Osage Orange bows. He has broke a few but so did I when I started out. I taught him to make flemish twist bowstrings and he is a champ at it so there is still hope.
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Fish 09-25-2020, 11:29 PM
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Fish 01:04 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I can't think of a single good reason to do this to a perfectly good 10/22. A Bullpup conversion will make what is normally a fairly accurate .22LR rifle significantly less accurate. Bullpup triggers are some of the worst contraptions in the known universe. Bullpups are just about the worst ergonomic designs ever created.

And the Bullpup design is specifically intended for CQB in urban environments. But no one would ever consider the .22LR an adequate defensive round. Never mind the tiny caliber, the low velocity, or the light weight. It's a rimfire cartridge; basically the least reliable construction available.

The thing is about as useful as a bumpstock.
Clearly you haven't ever shot one. Plenty disagree....




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Fish 01:21 AM Yesterday

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Megatron96 01:24 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Fish:
Clearly you haven't ever shot one. Plenty disagree....



I've shot a couple. And for their intended purpose, they serve.

But chambered in .22LR? It's an expensive toy. Any bolt-action version will be more accurate and more reliable. Even in a pseudo-AR platform it'd be more accurate, and more ergonomic.

Bullpups for the average shooter are inaccurate, badly designed platforms, period. Given a hundred or so practice rounds I can put rounds on target out to a respectable distance with a bullpup, but most can't. I've seen people miss A-boxes at least than 15 yards using a bullpup for the first time.

And in .22LR I can't think of a single decent purpose for the platform. Varmint shooting? Sorry, but the base platform would be a much, much better set-up.

Plinking? Ditto. I could, much more easily hit pop cans at 100 yards with a standard 10/22 than you could with the bullpup version. Probably I could out-shoot you or any average shooter, while legally drunk between the two platforms.

About the only scenario where the bullpup would out-perform the standard platform would be some kind of game scenario at very close range. And even then, any decent AR-15 would be the better choice and much easier to operate for the average shooter. Hell, I could probably do it with any handgun in my safe.
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Fish 01:31 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Probably I could out-shoot you or any average shooter, while legally drunk between the two platforms.
LOL... K... Come on by KC, we'll put it to the test. I know a good place to verify.
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Fish 01:48 AM Yesterday
Ruger ZK22:



https://aklysdefense.com/
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Frazod 02:21 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Fish:
Clearly you haven't ever shot one. Plenty disagree....
Well, I've never ridden a moped, either.

Not even a tricked-out one. :-)
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