Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
Cam put himself in a bad situation in that conversation. He approached Benjamin. He had the look of someone that wanted to instigate something. That's a bad look for a starting QB right before a game.
I wonder if he'll get on the field at all against the Ravens? Obviously he won't know the playbook yet, but theoretically he's in football shape... [Reply]
Originally Posted by carcosa:
I wonder if he'll get on the field at all against the Ravens? Obviously he won't know the playbook yet, but theoretically he's in football shape...
I'm guessing yes. They know he won't learn this system before, during, or after the playoffs much less the season. He'll probably line up in short/goal to go situations where they'll have him run a fade, slant or some other easy route. [Reply]
How often does someone immediately show up on a job and become a cancer? There's usually a honeymoon period where they are motivated and everyone gets along. [Reply]
What is a cancer exactly? Is he really going to be complaining about getting targets when he's just joined the best offense in the league and is in the midst of a playoff run? Is he going to call Mahomes with Kelce secretly listening in on three-way and ask who his best receiver is, knowing that Mahomes will answer with Hill and Kelce will be offended?
You guys act like we've made some major investment. If the Chiefs determine the guy is a problem in a week, they cut him and lose nothing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Gobills12:
Hey Guys!!
Bills fan here.
Congrats on having an awesome year! You guys have an excellent team and have been fun to watch.
Just wanted to offer some 1st hand perspective.
First and foremost, i want to make clear - this isnt a salty post.
I hope KB has success with you and he finds what he has been lacking.
That said, you guys have a good thing going. You dont need this dude.
I cant even explain how excited we were to get this cat last year. We have poop at WR, and KB wanted to be a #1 so it seemed like a good fit. Ive seen the rationale about not having good qbs etc and honestly there might be a bit of truth to that.... but in the end, that wasnt KBs issue.
After almost 2 seasons, im not sure what he is. We hoped hed be a guy who would gobble up jump balls and help the qb look better. The sad fact of the matter was, when a pass was thrown it got to the point where you hoped it wasnt going his way. His game SHOULD be going up and making a play for his qb. Time after time after time he was out muscled by someone half his size.
Think about that. This dude is 2x the db, but that little guy just got done having his way with him. They kept trying and trying and trying. I can think of 3 times his entire tenure here where he jumped and outplayed his defender to make a play. Not a big deal for a Watkins type - but thats HIS game!!!
Hope that when you need a big play the ball goes nowhere near him. Honestly, ive never seen a WR drop more balls that litterally hit him in the hands. Thats an issue, when you see a ball going towards him in space and you have to worry about him catching it. It got to the point where the only ball he caught was a body catch.
The weird thing was, its a contract year. Ive never seen a player act like they had ALREADY signed that big deal before it happened. Even if he went somewhere else, ya still wanna look good - right? Maybe he got in his own head as he alluded to... maybe not. I dont know, but that brings the next issue..
Alligator arms. Look no further than a play at the goal line last week in MIA. Allen tosses a dime to KB at the goal line. A defender was closing in but still 5 yards away. Instead of making a catch by extending his arms 3/4 of the way, he lets the ball hit him in the hands and just drops it. His last big catch the week before in JAX, he caught it, but still almost dropped it and juggled it. Time and time again, if there was someone closing in the ball went right to the turf. It was almost as if he didnt want to catch it bc that meant contact was coming
The fact of the matter is BUF has a bunch of young speedy no name guys. They could use a big tall posession receiver to make plays, be the guy, and be counted on when ya needed an important catch. He wasnt that. Their young guys are coming along, but you would look at those names and say they are deprived...but yet it was addition by subtraction.
He quits on routes, runs poor routes, refuses to adjust to balls and when its not on the money he just quits and makes no attempt to break up a play. Hes slow to begin with, but if he knew it wasnt coming his way - hed jog.
The final nail in the coffin was last week he and Zay Jones ran the same route across the middle. Zay was 10 deep and KB was 20. Zay got the ball and scored. KB didnt even turn around to see if he caught the ball and instead of turning to celebrate he never turned around and just kept walking around the wall.
We will never know what went on, but his attitude became poor and he was hurting more than helping. That might be ok if you are an asset on the field but he became a hindrance. 5 games in rather than being our #1, fans wanted him cut. When it actually happened, it was in the top 5 highlights of the season. No joke
If i was a Chiefs fan, i wouldnt want this guy anywhere near my team.
You guys have a great thing going and i hope KB ends up helping rather than hurting. I really do. For your sake, if the game is on the line and ya need a big play, i hope its not going his way. Only bad things happen.
As i said, ive really enjoyed your team and your year and am rootimg for you to go places. I loved Mahomes coming out and was excited when we picked Allen as there are a lot of similarities. Seeing KB signed in KC, as a fan who loves the NFL and what you guys are doing was dissappinting and made me sad. Hopefully he is just a low end guy who has no importance placed on him. Im not sure if his ego or head will allow that, but now that its happened i hope it can.
Good luck the rest of the way! Im excited to see where the season takes you guys and i hope this is your year. Cheers!!
Imagine going to another teams forum and typing a book about Kelvin Benjamin. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Best playoff game never played.
Biggest ass whipping in a playoff game? Dan Marino's last game. Jacksonville 62 Dolphins 7 on January 15, 2000 Divisional Round - Jimmy Johnson was the Head Coach of the Dolphins [Reply]
We lose nothing by doing this. He's never destroyed a locker room. Andy has earned our trust for gods sake with the offense. We are 10-2 so back off the ledge. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
We lose nothing by doing this. He's never destroyed a locker room. Andy has earned our trust for gods sake with the offense. We are 10-2 so back off the ledge.
Well the offensive coaching staff obviously has a plan in mind for Benjamin. It’s also quite possible Andy’s had some formations/plays drawn up already that the current personnel didn’t fit. Without Kareem it’s a perfect time down the stretch here leading up to the playoffs to throw out some new wrinkles within the offense to keep defenses on their heels. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Warpaint69:
Well the offensive coaching staff obviously has a plan in mind for Benjamin. It’s also quite possible Andy’s had some formations/plays drawn up already that the current personnel didn’t fit. Without Kareem it’s a perfect time down the stretch here leading up to the playoffs to throw out some new wrinkles within the offense to keep defenses on their heels.
So Andy saw a big spot of BBQ sauce on a napkin and thought we need Kevin? [Reply]