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Nzoner's Game Room>Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
comochiefsfan 01:37 PM 03-01-2024
I don’t see any kind of leadership gene with Caleb.

He might be great if he went into a ready made situation like SF.

But how will he react when he’s playing for a shitty organization and people are failing all around him?

I have serious doubts but we’ll see.
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BenoniBenko 01:49 PM 03-01-2024
This kid is incredibly talented. Barring some disaster (i.e injuries) I have zero doubt he'll be top 5 within 2-3 years in the NFL.

I spent several years of my life living in Chicago and even studied there and they really deserve to have an elite QB. Its unbelievable, they've been around for 100+ years and have this storied history but the only superstar QB they've ever had was Sid Luckman back in the 1940's

Maye is also fantastic as well. He's way better than Jayden Daniels

I hope Williams and Maye go to the NFC . It will help bring some much needed QB talent parity between the 2 conferences.
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MahomesMagic 01:56 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by BenoniBenko:
This kid is incredibly talented. Barring some disaster (i.e injuries) I have zero doubt he'll be top 5 within 2-3 years in the NFL.

I spent several years of my life living in Chicago and even studied there and they really deserve to have an elite QB. Its unbelievable, they've been around for 100+ years and have this storied history but the only superstar QB they've ever had was Sid Luckman back in the 1940's

Maye is also fantastic as well. He's way better than Jayden Daniels

I hope Williams and Maye go to the NFC . It will help bring some much needed QB talent parity between the 2 conferences.
I think Maye seems like a better coaching fit with the Bears offense.

If the Bears get a boat load of picks from Washington I think they drop 1 spot and take Maye.
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BenoniBenko 02:00 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I think Maye seems like a better coaching fit with the Bears offense.

If the Bears get a boat load of picks from Washington I think they drop 1 spot and take Maye.
Maye played in a modern air-raid system last year and that's what Kliff is known for. I get your point though, Caleb Williams is Kliff's guy.
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Imon Yourside 02:01 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I think Maye seems like a better coaching fit with the Bears offense.

If the Bears get a boat load of picks from Washington I think they drop 1 spot and take Maye.
Bears can't afford another Trubisky
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notorious 02:04 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Bears can't afford another Trubisky
I've always been of the opinion you take shot after shot after shot until you land "the guy".


Bears need to be aggressive, but this guy will implode,and he will take the team with him.
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Imon Yourside 02:12 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by notorious:
I've always been of the opinion you take shot after shot after shot until you land "the guy".


Bears need to be aggressive, but this guy will implode,and he will take the team with him.
They almost have to take Caleb, the hype is real for sure. Not a well run organization and that will matter.
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DJ's left nut 02:40 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Bears can't afford another Trubisky
Yeah - they can't make the same mistake twice. Oh sure, making a completely different mistake isn't much better from a results standpoint, but from a fan satisfaction standpoint, you just can't do the same thing you did last time when you locked in on 'coachability' and floor with Trubisky over a guy like Mahomes who was clearly a superior raw talent even without the benefit of hindsight.

The Bears have to take the guy with the best physical tools this time. And that guy is Williams. It's a risk in its own right and I know they shouldn't make decisions based on the past, but the NFL is still an entertainment industry. That fanbase just can't handle the same process going the same way again. And there's no worse than a coinflip chance of that happening if they pass on Williams for Maye.
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Imon Yourside 02:47 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah - they can't make the same mistake twice. Oh sure, making a completely different mistake isn't much better from a results standpoint, but from a fan satisfaction standpoint, you just can't do the same thing you did last time when you locked in on 'coachability' and floor with Trubisky over a guy like Mahomes who was clearly a superior raw talent even without the benefit of hindsight.

The Bears have to take the guy with the best physical tools this time. And that guy is Williams. It's a risk in its own right and I know they shouldn't make decisions based on the past, but the NFL is still an entertainment industry. That fanbase just can't handle the same process going the same way again. And there's no worse than a coinflip chance of that happening if they pass on Williams for Maye.
Maye does look a bit more like Josh Allen or Herbert than Trubisky but still they have to take Caleb after passing on Mahomes for Tits.
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mr. tegu 07:35 PM 03-03-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah - they can't make the same mistake twice. Oh sure, making a completely different mistake isn't much better from a results standpoint, but from a fan satisfaction standpoint, you just can't do the same thing you did last time when you locked in on 'coachability' and floor with Trubisky over a guy like Mahomes who was clearly a superior raw talent even without the benefit of hindsight.

The Bears have to take the guy with the best physical tools this time. And that guy is Williams. It's a risk in its own right and I know they shouldn't make decisions based on the past, but the NFL is still an entertainment industry. That fanbase just can't handle the same process going the same way again. And there's no worse than a coinflip chance of that happening if they pass on Williams for Maye.

I have very little Maye watching experience but with Williams I am confident at the very least he won’t turn into a Trubisky/Picket type QB. He will at least be exciting and make plays and provide a burst of energy and optimism they need. If he lives up to the hype who knows, there’s a lot to that but I do know he’s too talented to be complete bust where you have buyers remorse after one season. Does Maye provide that?
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Eleazar 02:06 PM 03-01-2024
How do you approach the subject of his helicopter parents after you draft him, anyway? 'Hey, we like you but this is a professional football team so you need to cut the cord and they need to not be a distraction'
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Bl00dyBizkitz 03:04 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
How do you approach the subject of his helicopter parents after you draft him, anyway? 'Hey, we like you but this is a professional football team so you need to cut the cord and they need to not be a distraction'
Last time I remember an incredible talent with helicopter distraction parents was RGIII. Didn't end well.
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Pitt Gorilla 03:09 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Last time I remember an incredible talent with helicopter distraction parents was RGIII. Didn't end well.
Ball brothers?
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DJ's left nut 03:28 PM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Ball brothers?
Turns out, LaVar Ball was the best thing to ever happen to his mediocre ass children.

LiAngelo was trash but got some NBA run. Lonzo is pretty much as mediocre a player as the NBA has but continues to bilk teams out of large contracts because of the hype surrounding him coming out of UCLA. LaMelo is the only guy with any actual staying power to speak of and his dad certainly didn't hurt him when it came time for stuff like the ROY voting (which will impact his earning potential due to escalators on max deals).

That gasbag is actually an annoying success story.
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Valiant 02:22 PM 03-01-2024
I get bust vibes from his ability to not beat good teams even though he was surrounded with elite talent. What does he expect at the next level.

Then his demands are asinine for a potential rookie, unless he is gambling to drop his stock and get drafted by a better team at the bottom.

I also read that he doesn't want to show up because he is 5,11. Which looking at photos of him and the coaches may be true.
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