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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

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dirk digler 11:18 AM 05-06-2020
Cuomo in his PC today said Chicago and NY based off what CDC has told them are going back to November and December to look at flu like deaths to check for Covid.


As I said yesterday every state\major city should be doing this to see when it possibly showed up in their respective areas.
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lewdog 11:23 AM 05-06-2020
Someone inaccurately reported that we had no deaths yesterday for AZ.

Real story.......

There were 31 COVID-19 deaths between Tuesday and Wednesday, the second largest daily increase reported by the state.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...y7UbOFbeQDHXE0
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O.city 11:29 AM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Cuomo in his PC today said Chicago and NY based off what CDC has told them are going back to November and December to look at flu like deaths to check for Covid.


As I said yesterday every state\major city should be doing this to see when it possibly showed up in their respective areas.
If it were here and circulating then, doesn't that change our course of action?
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Discuss Thrower 11:31 AM 05-06-2020
Imperial College forecasting up to 23,000 deaths if Italians resume 40% of their normal pre-lockdown activities.
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DaFace 11:35 AM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
If it were here and circulating then, doesn't that change our course of action?
How would it? It seems like it might change our understanding of it some, but I'm not sure how it would change any of our current strategies. It's here now regardless of how long it took for it to show up on our radar.
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O.city 11:58 AM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
How would it? It seems like it might change our understanding of it some, but I'm not sure how it would change any of our current strategies. It's here now regardless of how long it took for it to show up on our radar.
Theoretically, if it is as infectious and explosive as we think, if it were here then, it would have overwhelmed hospitals sooner than it has.

If there was community spread in January and February in these places as is to be thought, the hospitals didn't seem to realize or notice it.
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Rausch 11:59 AM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Imperial College forecasting up to 23,000 deaths if Italians resume 40% of their normal pre-lockdown activities.
Is that the same douche that predicted 2 million deaths in the US?
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DaFace 11:59 AM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Theoretically, if it is as infectious and explosive as we think, if it were here then, it would have overwhelmed hospitals sooner than it has.

If there was community spread in January and February in these places as is to be thought, the hospitals didn't seem to realize or notice it.
All of that may be true, but I still don't see how it changes what we're doing now.
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Discuss Thrower 11:59 AM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Is that the same douche that predicted 2 million deaths in the US?
Can't argue with math bro.


Also, this boffo story:

"ST. LOUIS – You Paid For It investigator Elliott Davis learned calls for evictions have jumped nearly 40 percent since the coronavirus crisis.

Sheriff Vernon Betts says his office is getting a lot of calls from landlords wanting to evict people from homes and apartments.

In normal times landlords go to court and get an eviction order. Then it falls on the sheriff’s office to actually serve the notice and evict the family. But the eviction notices have been put on hold by the Presiding Judge since the coronavirus crisis. Families are not being evicted right now."

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dirk digler 12:02 PM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
If it were here and circulating then, doesn't that change our course of action?

I agree with Daface it wouldn't change what we are currently doing. It will help determine though if more people had it way earlier than previously known.
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O.city 12:02 PM 05-06-2020
Kinda brings it back to the iceberg theory. It's huge underneath, small up top of what we see.

There's tons of infections or previous infections that have recovered underneath, we see the hospitalizations and deaths up top. Looking at the numbers of the elderly this wipes out, maybe it just rides along in the normal population then gets in these areas and explodes.
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Rausch 12:03 PM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Can't argue with math bro.


Also, this boffo story:

"ST. LOUIS – You Paid For It investigator Elliott Davis learned calls for evictions have jumped nearly 40 percent since the coronavirus crisis.

Sheriff Vernon Betts says his office is getting a lot of calls from landlords wanting to evict people from homes and apartments.

In normal times landlords go to court and get an eviction order. Then it falls on the sheriff’s office to actually serve the notice and evict the family. But the eviction notices have been put on hold by the Presiding Judge since the coronavirus crisis. Families are not being evicted right now."
The deaths and medicine of C19 can be argued but the economics are very real. This economy is screwed long term and that is very real...
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O.city 12:04 PM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
All of that may be true, but I still don't see how it changes what we're doing now.
Again, theoretically, it would be argued that what we did was overkill and we didn't focus our efforts in the right direction.

Theoretically.
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DaFace 12:04 PM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Kinda brings it back to the iceberg theory. It's huge underneath, small up top of what we see.

There's tons of infections or previous infections that have recovered underneath, we see the hospitalizations and deaths up top. Looking at the numbers of the elderly this wipes out, maybe it just rides along in the normal population then gets in these areas and explodes.
Certainly possible.
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O.city 12:05 PM 05-06-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Certainly possible.
It's just amazing that the more and more we test, the more and more we find which was always seemingly the case.

So if that is in fact the case, woudln't we have found the same thing a month ago we're finding now?
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