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BWillie 09:53 AM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan:
Honest question. Do you REALLY think any of the above will be key contributors to our next championship run? Many of our best outfielders will be at Wilmington this year, w/ the likely exception of Khalil Lee. Hamilton upgrades our outfield defense, which is key to winning for us - it helps out our pitchers and takes us back to the defensive culture we need to rebuild. This is a transition outfield - kinda like the Gordon, Cabrera, Francona outfield was (except this one will be better).

Besides, he's only on a one year deal Even if you do think Boni and/or Phillips will be key contributors to our next championship run, with options, it's not like Phillips or Boni are going to rot on the bench. They'll get at-bats at the MLB level or the MILB level. It's just a matter of which for 2019.
Phillips could definitely be part of our next run. He could be the next Alex Gordon. Great defensively, decent power, can walk. The only question is can he hit.
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Bufkin 04:32 PM 12-11-2018
So Hamilton gets 1 year, 5.25 million with a mutual option for 2020. Which side do these types of options benefit on short term contracts?
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duncan_idaho 05:13 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by Bufkin:
So Hamilton gets 1 year, 5.25 million with a mutual option for 2020. Which side do these types of options benefit on short term contracts?

Both.

Player gets more guaranteed money. Team shifts financial obligation 1 year out.
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Prison Bitch 05:44 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by Bufkin:
So Hamilton gets 1 year, 5.25 million with a mutual option for 2020. Which side do these types of options benefit on short term contracts?
Player.

There is no upside for team. Which is why only like 1-2 of these have ever been exercised by the player.
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duncan_idaho 09:58 AM 12-11-2018
If they trusted non-roided Bonifacio to be a quality MLB player, I don’t think this happens. I expect him to be the odd man out this year, either at Omaha or elsewhere.

Suspect he and Phillips may both start at Omaha unless they’ve given up on Soler in RF and plan to DH him most of the time.
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Prison Bitch 10:30 AM 12-11-2018
In the FG dashboard, there are 4,003 players all time with >200 games played. Baines rates as the 7th worst all time in terms of defensive value created. Here’s what he did:


Offense: 243.5 runs
Defense: -235.7
Base running: -8.8
Total: -1



So he basically didn’t create or destroy any runs over 20 years, mostly as a pretty good hittting DH who didn’t run or field. If you count him as a RF where he started, his 38 fWAR ranks 24/25 who got in. The avg RF war is over 70.


Summary: this Shithead has no business being in.
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OKchiefs 05:10 PM 12-11-2018
Any idea when preseason farm system rankings are released? I'm curious to see how far we've progressed. I'd venture a completely uneducated guess of maybe around 22-23 out of 30?
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tk13 08:03 PM 12-11-2018

One random tidbit from the Winter Meetings: Royals manager Ned Yost said the Royals' in-house projection system has the Indians winning 97 games in 2019 despite the changes they've made.

— Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) December 12, 2018


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BWillie 10:29 PM 12-11-2018
We better trade Hamilton by the end of this year. Can't wait to get another Brandon Maurer out of it.
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tk13 11:15 AM 12-13-2018
Looks like the Royals selected Sam McWilliams, a 6'7" pitcher from the Rays in the rule 5 draft this morning.
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OKchiefs 11:22 AM 12-13-2018
Originally Posted by tk13:
Looks like the Royals selected Sam McWilliams, a 6'7" pitcher from the Rays in the rule 5 draft this morning.
I believe we also lost someone. Luciano is his name I think?
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tk13 11:26 AM 12-13-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I believe we also lost someone. Luciano is his name I think?
Yeah but he has to stick on the roster all year. A lot of the Toronto writers I see on Twitter are very skeptical of the move.

We got Luciano in the Jon Jay trade.
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Chiefspants 11:29 AM 12-13-2018
Originally Posted by tk13:
Yeah but he has to stick on the roster all year. A lot of the Toronto writers I see on Twitter are very skeptical of the move.

We got Luciano in the Jon Jay trade.
Yeah, I'm guessing the Royals didn't think anyone would take him due to age.

We'll see if the Jays can stash him away in the 25 man roster for a year.
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tk13 11:23 AM 12-13-2018
Apparently we also lost Elvis Luciano, a high upside 18 year old pitcher to the Blue Jays. That's strange that he was even available. We'll see if he can stick in the majors.
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DJ's left nut 12:54 PM 12-13-2018
Originally Posted by tk13:
Apparently we also lost Elvis Luciano, a high upside 18 year old pitcher to the Blue Jays. That's strange that he was even available. We'll see if he can stick in the majors.
You essentially traded Sam McWilliams for him. If you pass on your Rule 5 pick, my memory is that it allows you to protect another player not currently on your 40 man.

It's bizarre that Luciano is even Rule 5 eligible to me. There must be some caveat to the Rule 5 that I'm unaware of. Generally speaking a guy signed under 18 years of age isn't eligible for the Rule 5 until his 5th Rule 5 draft period.

Near as I can tell this should only be his 3rd. There must be some kind of weird wrinkle in there for guys that signed as a free agent and are never technically draft eligible. I really have no idea why he needed to be protected.
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