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Fantasy/CasinoPlanet>Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs
Rain Man 12:15 AM 03-22-2009
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Spoiler!

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

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wazu 09:51 PM 07-27-2011
Since we are on the eve of camp I am just going to say that I will take the Chiefs draft exactly as Pioli did it this year.
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chiefscafan 11:48 AM 08-17-2011
So are we doing this again this year?
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chiefscafan 05:52 PM 08-20-2011
So are we allowed to take people that were dropped from Thier teams??
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Rain Man 08:34 PM 08-20-2011
Originally Posted by Wazu:
Since we are on the eve of camp I am just going to say that I will take the Chiefs draft exactly as Pioli did it this year.
Cool. Works for me.
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Rain Man 08:35 PM 08-20-2011
Originally Posted by chiefscafan:
So are we allowed to take people that were dropped from Thier teams??
Nope. We don't do free agents in this game. Your roster will composed of:

People on your team the previous year
People you draft
Any new Chiefs that were signed as free agents and were not on the roster the previous year.
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chiefscafan 09:14 AM 08-21-2011
still working on my roster close only five spots left we go to 53 this year right?
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Rain Man 12:32 AM 09-19-2011
Uh-oh. I forgot to do my roster cuts to get to 53 people. I only have to cut four guys.

My final roster is shown below.

Red are my new rookies.
Blue are street free agents picked up so far by the real Chiefs.

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets) - 16/16/16
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) - 0/10/13
Brodie Croyle - 0/1/16
Tyler Palko

HB
Jamaal Charles - 6/6/16
Thomas Jones - 10/10/16
C.J. Spiller. (Bills) 0/1/14
Jackie Battle - 0/0/16

FB
Tim Castille, FB 10/4/10


WR
Dwayne Bowe - 16/16/16
Chris Chambers, WR - 13/7/13
Derrick Williams (Lions) - 3/1/7
Jeremy Horne - 0/0/3
Kevin Curtis
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
Greg Salas (Rams)


TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - 16/16/16
Leonard Pope, 6/6/16 (starting as blocker)


OT
Branden Albert - 15/15/15
Ryan O'Callaghan - 11/1/11
Lee Ziemba (Panthers)
Alex Boone (49ers) - 0/0/1


G
Brian Waters - 16/16/16
Lilja, Ryan - 15/15/15
Jason Pinkston (Browns)
Wade Smith - 7/1/16
Bruce Campbell (Raiders) - 0/0/10
Duke Robinson (Panthers) - 0/0/0


C
Wiegmann, Casey - 16/16/16
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)


K
(Scrub) - 16/16
Alex Henery (Eagles)

P
Dustin Colquitt - 16/16/16

FS
Kendrick Lewis - 10/10/10
Jarrad Page (Patriots) 9/1/10 (6 as FS, 3 as SS)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins) - 13/1/13
Shiloh Keo (Texans)

CB
Brandon Flowers - 15/15/15
Brandon Carr - 16/16/16
D.J. Moore (Bears) 1/0/16
Travis Daniels, CB - 0/0/16

OLB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals) - 15/15/15
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) - 15/1/15
Andy Studebaker - 2/0/16
Charlie Anderson
Eric Bakhtiari
Justin Cole

Chris Carter (Steelers)
Bruce Miller (49ers)


ILB
Derrick Johnson - 16/16/16
Demorrio Williams - 0/0/16

DE
Tamba Hali - 16/16/16
Wallace Gilberry 16/2/16
Alex Carrington (Bills) 0/0/9
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)

DT
Glenn Dorsey - 16/16/16
Ron Edwards - 8/15/15
Smith, Shaun - 8/10/16
Myron Pryor (Patriots) 0/2/9
Anthony Toribio
Lawrence Guy (Packers)[/QUOTE]

I'm cutting:

LB Mark Simoneau
WR Chandler Williams
TE Cody Slate
ILB Micah Johnson
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wazu 11:21 PM 04-26-2012
We never really followed up on this. Would be fun to piece back together and keep going since the start aligns perfectly with Pioli's beginning. Everybody up for putting their draft together this year? If we miss this it's over.
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Rain Man 11:17 AM 04-27-2012
Originally Posted by wazu:
We never really followed up on this. Would be fun to piece back together and keep going since the start aligns perfectly with Pioli's beginning. Everybody up for putting their draft together this year? If we miss this it's over.
I certainly plan to keep going. This is fun for me. We don't have enough players to compete with each other, but it's fun for me to see what team each of us puts together.
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wazu 04:04 PM 04-27-2012
Question: Can you please remind me what options do we have this year regarding free agents that walk? I'm mainly thinking about Brandon Carr and Wallace Gilberry. I think Carr is the first real star we have let walk since Pioli's reign began.

I've been trying to get my roster organized again. My big misses so far have been Kendrick Lewis and Tony Moeaki. I know there are other players who I'll add from the existing Chiefs roster this year provided they aren't people I opted not to draft, but below is what it looks like.

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

HB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis

FB
Tim Castille
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston
Jonathan Baldwin
Dezmon Briscoe (Buccaneers)

TE
Kevin Boss
Chase Coffman (Bucs)
Jake O'Connell

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston
Selvish Capers (Giants)

G
Lilja, Ryan
Jon Asamoah
Rodney Hudson

C
Matt Tennant (Saints)

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

S
Eric Berry

CB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Perrish Cox (49ers)
Stanford Routt
Jalil Brown

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Clint Sintim (Giants)
Sergio Kindle (Ravens)
Ricky Sapp (Jets)

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Allen Bailey
Amon Gordon
Wallace Gilberry

NT
Terrence Cody (Ravens)
Cam Thomas (Chargers)
Jerrell Powe
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Rain Man 03:34 PM 05-01-2012
Originally Posted by wazu:
Question: Can you please remind me what options do we have this year regarding free agents that walk? I'm mainly thinking about Brandon Carr and Wallace Gilberry. I think Carr is the first real star we have let walk since Pioli's reign began.
I gotta remember the rules. I think that if they walk directly to another team as a free agent, you can't keep them. They're gone. But if they're cut, you can choose to keep them. So you can't keep Carr, but since Gilberry didn't leave for another team, you can keep him.

Now, I've got to figure out my draft. I keep investing picks in QBs and it's not getting me anywhere.
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Rain Man 05:19 PM 05-01-2012
My team needs are:

Upgrade at QB
Depth at HB
Desperate need at WR
Heir at TE, and depth
Probably RT
Upgrade FS
Upgrade SS
Desperate need at OLB
Possible need at DE
Moderate need at DT

My team is a mess. This is harder than it looks.
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Rain Man 05:28 PM 05-01-2012
Free agent pickups that you can add to your roster:

Brandon Bair - DE
Mikail Baker - DB
Josh Bellamy - WR
Tim Biere - TE
Kevin Boss - TE
Steve Breaston - WR
Rob Bruggeman - C
Caleb Campbell - LB
Justin Cheadle - OL
Shaun Draughn - HB
Nate Eachus - RB
Jean Fanor - DB
Chandler Fenner - DB
Taylor Gentry - FB
Amon Gordon - DT
Tysyn Hartman - DB
Dexter Heyman - LB
Peyton Hillis - FB
Cam Holland - OL
Ethan Johnson - DE
Brandon Kinnie - WR
Steve Maneri - TE
Zeke Markshausen - WR
Kyle McCarthy - S
David Mims - OT
Jamar Newsome - WR
Terrance Parks - DB
Luke Patterson - DL
Jacques Reeves - DB
Stanford Routt - CB
Brandon Siler - ILB
Matt Szymanski - K
Neiko Thorpe - DB
Eric Winston - RT

You can also add anyone else who gets signed in camp. If they join the Chiefs as a free agent, they're on your training camp roster as well. If they make trades, you choose to accept or reject the trade.
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Rain Man 05:48 PM 05-01-2012
My initial training camp roster is shown below.

Adding in the free agents makes my picture look much better. Now my team needs are:

Upgrade at QB (despite heavy investment - sigh)
Depth/star at WR
Heir at TE
Upgrade FS
Upgrade SS
Desperate need at OLB
Possible need at DE



QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers)
Brodie Croyle
Tyler Palko

HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills)
Jackie Battle
Thomas Jones
Shaun Draughn
Nate Eachus

FB
Peyton Hillis
Taylor Gentry
Tim Castille


WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston - WR
Greg Salas (Rams)
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
Jeremy Horne
Chris Chambers
Derrick Williams (Lions)
Kevin Curtis
Brandon Kinnie - WR
Zeke Markshausen - WR
Jamar Newsome - WR
Josh Bellamy - WR


TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
Kevin Boss - TE
Leonard Pope
Steve Maneri - TE
Tim Biere - TE

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston - RT
Bruce Campbell (Raiders)
David Mims - OT
Ryan O'Callaghan
Lee Ziemba (Panthers)
Alex Boone (49ers)


G
Brian Waters
Lilja, Ryan
Jason Pinkston (Browns)
Wade Smith
Duke Robinson (Panthers)
Justin Cheadle - OL
Cam Holland - OL

C
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)
Wiegmann, Casey
Rob Bruggeman - C

K
Alex Henery (Eagles)
Matt Szymanski - K

P
Dustin Colquitt

FS
Kendrick Lewis
Kyle McCarthy - S
Jarrad Page (Patriots)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Shiloh Keo (Texans)

CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt - CB
D.J. Moore (Bears)
Travis Daniels
Jacques Reeves - DB
Mikail Baker - DB
Tysyn Hartman - DB
Jean Fanor - DB
Terrance Parks - DB
Chandler Fenner - DB
Neiko Thorpe - DB

OLB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers)
Andy Studebaker
Chris Carter (Steelers)
Bruce Miller (49ers)
Caleb Campbell - LB
Dexter Heyman - LB
Charlie Anderson
Eric Bakhtiari
Justin Cole

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Brandon Siler - ILB
Demorrio Williams

DE
Tamba Hali
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)
Alex Carrington (Bills)
Wallace Gilberry
Luke Patterson - DL
Ethan Johnson - DE

DT
Glenn Dorsey
Amon Gordon - DT
Ron Edwards
Smith, Shaun
Myron Pryor (Patriots)
Anthony Toribio
Lawrence Guy (Packers)
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Rain Man 11:14 PM 06-08-2012
Okay, people, it's draft time.

You get your seven picks below, and IF you still have Jarrad Page you can trade him for the 238th pick and get that pick in the 7th round. Otherwise, you don't get that pick.


Round Pick In Round Total Selection
1 11 11
2 12 44
3 11 74
4 12 107
5 11 146
6 12 182
7 11 218
7 31 238 if you trade away Jarrad Page.
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