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Nzoner's Game Room>Jeremiah Trotter thinks Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games
rabblerouser 09:34 PM 09-19-2015
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Originally Posted by Michael David Smith:
*by Michael David Smith on January 4, 2013, 8:16 AM EDT

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Jeremiah Trotter played a total of seven seasons for Andy Reid in three different stints with the Eagles. And he thinks he lost a lot of games because Reid got out-coached.

“If it came down to both teams were even, talent-wise,*I think the opponent’s team would win if it came down to coaching,” Trotter said on 97.5 The Fanatic, via Philly.com. “Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games, man, a lot of big games,” Trotter continued. “Time outs, running the football, you know.”

Trotter said Reid’s offensive style made things different for the defense and the late defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who ran the defense in Philadelphia until his death in 2008.

“As a defense, we understood we passed the ball too much. You know, there’s times we’re sitting over there like, ‘Man, listen. Just get us a couple of first downs so we can get a break.’ And I’m sure it frustrated Jim Johnson also,” Trotter said

Still, Trotter acknowledges that he won a lot of games during his time with Reid, and he says he would have given Reid a 7.5 or 8 on a scale of 1-10. I shudder to think what he’d say about a coach who was a 1.
Good coaches don't get out coached in a lot of games.
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rabblerouser 06:42 AM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Our pass rush is going to suck (again). Front 7 won't be able to stop the run. Depth on the DL is/should be a great concern. Teams are going to sit back and laugh while they run directly at Dee Ford all game long. Eric Berry is coming back off of a major injury and the Chiefs traded arguably their best defensive player for peanuts.

Mahomes and the O better score 30-40 ppg. Because the D sure as shit won't be able to stop anyone this season. D is going to be a 3yr project.
They better be bluffing about "best player available" in the draft and go ALL DEFENSE.
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rabblerouser 12:40 PM 09-16-2018
Either Reid got out coached in the 2nd qtr today...or the game is rigged.

Those are the 2 options. Or a combination of the two...
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rabblerouser 12:41 PM 09-16-2018
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
They better be bluffing about "best player available" in the draft and go ALL DEFENSE.
Nevermind.
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bricks 12:47 PM 09-16-2018
Its the def coordinator. The theme is the same. It seems like everytime we have a big lead, the defense lays off. The message is simple, you give Roethlisberger time, he is gonna pick you apart and then Sutton doesn’t adjust. So really Im not surprised.
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eDave 12:48 PM 09-16-2018
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Either Reid got out coached in the 2nd qtr today...or the game is rigged.

Those are the 2 options. Or a combination of the two...
Pitt was impressive in there adjustments regardless. We'd have gone into a shell down 3td in the 1st.
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JakeF 12:51 PM 09-16-2018
Reid is overrated as a head coach. He really needs to be an offensive coordinator with a Head Coach over him to keep him from his bad habits.

Get a lead, go into a shell. Tells his defensive coordinator to be ultra conservative.

Reid trademarks.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12:52 PM 09-16-2018
Haters fuck off. No Andy, no Mahomes.
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rabblerouser 01:53 PM 09-16-2018
Sometimes, Reid even outcoaches his own damn self.
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GloryDayz 03:17 PM 09-16-2018
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Either Reid got out coached in the 2nd qtr today...or the game is rigged.

Those are the 2 options. Or a combination of the two...
It's both. The rigged game plays toward those who understand theater. Andy thinks being a wallflower gets him love by the league...
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Eleazar 03:39 PM 09-16-2018
That safety was almost the turning point in the game. A completely bone-headed decision. You can always count on Reid for one of those in a critical situation. Going away from what's working, taking an unnecessary risk, playing to our weaknesses like running it up the gut in that situation. Just stupid.
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staylor26 03:41 PM 09-16-2018
This place is so embarrasingly stupid :-)

We’re 2-0 after going on the road against two playoff teams with our young QB playing lights out and you choose to shit on Reid?

:-)
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GloryDayz 03:44 PM 09-16-2018
Originally Posted by eDave:
Pitt was impressive in there adjustments regardless. We'd have gone into a shell down 3td in the 1st.
Once, just once, it would be nice to see Andy stand up to the officials for his players. Get tossed, get a $15K fine, throw a water jug on the field, but draw attention to the league's fucking of his team and, hopefully, after all the standard "shock" from the media, somebody might say, "well, he's right."

I'll say again, a different union should approach the NFL defensive player, and like businesses that have to deal with multiple unions, let the NFL deal with a union that might take-up the cause of how DPI is so easily called, but an OPI (which we see push-offs all the time) is more rare than Gaz being the lead in a Orgy movie.

Either way, the Chiefs have to stand up to the league and the officials, they won't ever treat them fairly just because it's the right thing to do. You know, small market team and all...
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GloryDayz 03:45 PM 09-16-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
This place is so embarrasingly stupid :-)

We’re 2-0 after going on the road against two playoff teams with our young QB playing lights out and you choose to shit on Reid?

:-)
^^^^^^ The kind of simpleton the NFL counts on ^^^^^^
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DRM08 03:47 PM 09-16-2018
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
That safety was almost the turning point in the game. A completely bone-headed decision. You can always count on Reid for one of those in a critical situation. Going away from what's working, taking an unnecessary risk, playing to our weaknesses like running it up the gut in that situation. Just stupid.
Heck, a QB sneak would have been much better playcall if you are just trying to get a yard or two. Going backwards 5 yards to hand off the ball in the end zone is begging for trouble.
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Imon Yourside 03:48 PM 09-16-2018
We could have Todd Haley, Gunther Cunningham, Herm Edwards or Romeo Crennel..the possibilities are endless.
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