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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's Talk About the Bills (AFC Championship Edition)
cmh6476 05:11 PM 01-17-2021
They're pretty good
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htismaqe 01:18 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
That probably ends tomorrow he needs to be cleared by a doctor independent of the team.
Yep.
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chiefswillriseup 01:22 PM 01-22-2021
MAHOMES IS OUT OF PROTOCOL! - per Mahomes
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comochiefsfan 01:22 PM 01-22-2021
HE GOOD
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Reroka 01:22 PM 01-22-2021
Patrick up next to talk
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Bearcat 01:22 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The bigger concern is not the red zone offense, it's the red zone defense.

The Bills allow a TD on 60.6% of red zone trips, and again are much better at home (54.3%) than on the road (67.7%).

However, the Chiefs are giving up TD's a whopping 77.5% of the time and 84% at home. That number was 53.3% last year.
I kind of hate red zone stats. (but luckily still have Chiefs stats from the Browns match up)

2020 regular season

Chiefs on offense
68% (36/53) of the Chiefs' touchdowns have come from the red zone.
Chiefs red zone offense - 14th -- 36/59 -- 61%

Bills on defense
88% (38/43) of the Bills' touchdowns against have come from the red zone.
Bills red zone defense - 28th -- 38/58 -- 65.5%



Bills on offense
75% (42/56) of their touchdowns have come from the red zone.
Bills red zone offense -- 13th -- 42/68 -- 61%

Chiefs on defense
84% (36/43) of the Chiefs' TDs against have been from the red zone.
Chiefs red zone defense 32nd -- 36/47 -- 77%


I would love to do a "most reliant on red zone touchdowns/red zone stops", but I'm using lineups.com for stats and they use Flash, so it's not easily copy/pastable... and I'm not doing all that shit manually.

The most interesting part is the Bills are tied for the most red zone attempts in the league with the Saints and have a higher percentage of relying on those attempts.... OTOH, the Chiefs defense is 6th best at preventing red zone attempts, even if teams often score once they do get there.

The Bills are middle of the pack when it comes to red zone attempts against (only a few off the Browns), but the Chiefs aren't as reliant on getting there. The stats seem to suggest you need to get down there to score, but the Browns were 37/47 (78%) in that regard, so meh.
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Bearcat 01:25 PM 01-22-2021
If I ever make an "Abolish these Narratives" thread, red zone percentages will be in there.... they are fickle for most of the season due to small sample sizes (a few more/less touchdowns can move you 10+ spots easily), and they don't account for the fact that a bend-but-don't-break type of defense might not give up a ton of chances in the red zone, where as another team might routinely have teams drive into the red zone, even if they make more stops.
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htismaqe 01:27 PM 01-22-2021
Great analysis, thanks.
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Pasta Little Brioni 02:19 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
:-)

The defense has carried the Bills?

:-)
According to those dolts Keyshawn, J Will, and Zuban, the Chiefs have by far the worst defense left and the Bills defense has been amazing
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ShowtimeSBMVP 02:35 PM 01-22-2021

Willie Gay is out for Sunday's game.

Bashaud Breeland, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Rashad Fenton, Sammy Watkins, and Le'Veon Bell are questionable.https://t.co/refMaIUM6R

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) January 22, 2021

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ModSocks 02:38 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP:
5D Chess. They're all playing.
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pugsnotdrugs19 02:41 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
5D Chess. They're all playing.
Yip.

All that’s left to do is dispose of these cowards.
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cooper barrett 02:50 PM 01-22-2021
Watching 1993 championship game (Chiefs vs Bills) on NFL Network.
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KChiefs1 03:01 PM 01-22-2021

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Frazod 03:01 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
Watching 1993 championship game (Chiefs vs Bills) on NFL Network.
Ugh. Why the fuck would you want to do that?
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Mr. Plow 03:02 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Ugh. Why the fuck would you want to do that?
Because it's cooper. He probably thinks the Chiefs win even though the score clearly shows otherwise.
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