2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official
2023 Opening Day Lineup
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Donovan 2B
Nootbar RF
Goldschmidt 1B
Arenado 3B
Wilson Contreras C
Tyler O'Neill LF
Gorman DH
Jordan Walker RF
Tommy Edman SS
2022 Opening Day roster.
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The Cardinals anticipated 26-player Opening Day roster projects as follows, but will not become official until Thursday, March 30:
PITCHERS (13): Jack Flaherty-RHP, Giovanny Gallegos-RHP, Ryan Helsley-RHP, Jordan Hicks-RHP, Steven Matz-LHP, Miles Mikolas-RHP, Jordan Montgomery-LHP, Packy Naughton-LHP, Andre Pallante-RHP, Chris Stratton-RHP, Zack Thompson-LHP, Drew VerHagen-RHP, and Jake Woodford-RHP;
CATCHERS (2): Willson Contreras and Andrew Knizner;
INFIELDERS (6): Nolan Arenado, Brendan Donovan, Tommy Edman, Paul Goldschmidt, Nolan Gorman and Taylor Motter;
OUTFIELDERS (5): Alec Burleson, Dylan Carlson, Lars Nootbaar, Tyler O’Neill and Jordan Walker;
INJURED LIST (3): Paul DeJong-INF, Wilking Rodríguez-RHP, Adam Wainwright-RHP.
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Originally Posted by bdj23:
Jesus fucking Christ, he was cooked last year. Mo is worthless.
Had some solid underlying numbers but HR luck murdered him. Busch reduces homers so that'll help.
I don't think he's cooked - but league average 4th/5th starter is all you're wise to expect from him. $10 million on a 1-yr deal is about what those cost.
The problem is that if DeWitt is going to hold the line on payroll, that's gonna be about 1/4 of the free capital that we have.
There's really no such thing as a bad 1-year deal and I'd be surprised if he couldn't pitch to 2 WAR or so next year. Somewhere between the guy that missed bats in Chicago but got blown up otherwise and the guy that managed to get outs without striking anyone out in LA is the real Lynn. And I think that's probably a tolerably mediocre high 4s pitcher who should be able to bank 160-180 innings.
I mean for the first 300 starts of his career Lynn was a guy who gave up a homer every 10 innings; a pretty solid HR rate. Then suddenly he gave up a homer every FOUR last season and that's just loony tunes. I mean your HR/FB rate doesn't typically double while your K rate stays stable. His FB rate was up a little so it suggests that the pitches aren't quite what they were, but I think he's quite a bit better than he was for most of last season.
If we sign Yamamoto (and get a real CFer) then I think this is a solid move for competition at the back of the rotation. If we sign Sonny Gray and roll with that as our big off-season moves then that's just business as usual.
"Buy your Lance Lynn 35 game season ticket packages now!!!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I mean for the first 300 starts of his career Lynn was a guy who gave up a homer every 10 innings; a pretty solid HR rate. Then suddenly he gave up a homer every FOUR last season and that's just loony tunes. I mean your HR/FB rate doesn't typically double while your K rate stays stable. His FB rate was up a little so it suggests that the pitches aren't quite what they were, but I think he's quite a bit better than he was for most of last season.
Well, look at the heat map of the only pitches he can mildly control and throws 80% of the time. Might as well put the ball on a tee. He was league average to one of the worst pitchers in baseball in every measure. I dont know if there was some kind of related injury, but there's really nothing to hang your hat on and say there's something to work with there. [Reply]
The Cardinals have hired former infielder Daniel Descalso to be on the team's 2024 coaching staff, per multiple sources. St. Louis is still finalizing their staff and while Descalso does not yet have an official title, he will be on the major-league staff.
The Cardinals have hired former infielder Daniel Descalso to be on the team's 2024 coaching staff, per multiple sources. St. Louis is still finalizing their staff and while Descalso does not yet have an official title, he will be on the major-league staff.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Had some solid underlying numbers but HR luck murdered him. Busch reduces homers so that'll help.
I don't think he's cooked - but league average 4th/5th starter is all you're wise to expect from him. $10 million on a 1-yr deal is about what those cost.
The problem is that if DeWitt is going to hold the line on payroll, that's gonna be about 1/4 of the free capital that we have.
There's really no such thing as a bad 1-year deal and I'd be surprised if he couldn't pitch to 2 WAR or so next year. Somewhere between the guy that missed bats in Chicago but got blown up otherwise and the guy that managed to get outs without striking anyone out in LA is the real Lynn. And I think that's probably a tolerably mediocre high 4s pitcher who should be able to bank 160-180 innings.
I mean for the first 300 starts of his career Lynn was a guy who gave up a homer every 10 innings; a pretty solid HR rate. Then suddenly he gave up a homer every FOUR last season and that's just loony tunes. I mean your HR/FB rate doesn't typically double while your K rate stays stable. His FB rate was up a little so it suggests that the pitches aren't quite what they were, but I think he's quite a bit better than he was for most of last season.
If we sign Yamamoto (and get a real CFer) then I think this is a solid move for competition at the back of the rotation. If we sign Sonny Gray and roll with that as our big off-season moves then that's just business as usual.
"Buy your Lance Lynn 35 game season ticket packages now!!!"
There is still a lot of value for a guy who can still give you 6 innings every 5 days even if he gives up homers. [Reply]