Originally Posted by Mecca:
I'm saying if every other business you compete with would take your high end employee the second you fired him because they also will employee low life people to get ahead...
Often times trying to be the bigger man or do the right thing just gets you fucked over. Today the Chiefs are being drug over the coals for an NFL issue.
This the bed the Chiefs have made. This is their own fault. Is it worth sticking it out with him and stomaching the ensuing backlash that will occur just because you don't want him to play for another team in a year (this assumes no criminal prosecution)?
Originally Posted by sedated:
Did that get mentioned during the draft, in the same "this team has embarrassed their city" way that the Chiefs are getting? I didn't watch much of it so don't know.
They showed and basically tried to defend him "this girl had a long standing issue with his sister" and acted like he was defending his family or some shit.
All I know is he was like 8 times larger than this woman and was beating her in the face while she was laying on the street.
The thing about the "release now, ask questions later" mob is that they apparently are blind to the fact that it would be a reward for Hill. He gets to choose his team and gets a raise.
Originally Posted by Mecca:
What I want to know is why are we expected to be a franchise that does this while other teams can win titles with shit bags?
Why is our team being held to a higher standard? Whey are they discussing wanting draft picks taken away, that wasn't brought up when the Patriots had a murderer on the team.
Do people really just have a hard on for not liking the Chiefs?
Exactly. Fuck taking the moral high ground if no one else does. Is there a franchise in the league that has never had a guy accused of domestic abuse?
Nevermind all the players that are never caught/accused.
Originally Posted by bobbything:
This the bed the Chiefs have made. This is their own fault. Is it worth sticking it out with him and stomaching the ensuing backlash that will occur just because you don't want him to play for another team in a year (this assumes no criminal prosecution)?
For me? I don't care about backlash, I care about winning.
I'd cheer for the worst people in the world to win a title.
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Is this individual my 1st or 2nd highest grossing salesman? Because if he is, we're going to sit down in my office, make sure we understand each other in terms of honest discussion, and then formulate a plan that we can both work with while this process is playing out.
We just lost our 2nd best sales person in our group for an ethics violation. Keep in mind, the contracts I deal with are usually in the billions with a B, if not hundreds of millions. The guy makes a ton of money and is well-respected in the industry. They simply let him go - no questions, no warning, zero tolerance.
And guess what? He's not just going to walk into one of our competitors and pick up where he left off. Because most of our competitors have the same ethics policies we have, up to and including regulation from the government on certain things. He's going to have take his shady self to an equally shady company and try to work his way back up.
The NFL has none of that. No actual conscience, no real oversight, just an arbitrary set of rules that can be changed at any time should the commissioner see fit. They're shielded from any serious repercussions by their status with government. It's entertainment without accountability.
Originally Posted by sedated:
The thing about the "release now, ask questions later" mob is that they apparently are blind to the fact that it would be a reward for Hill. He gets to choose his team and gets a raise.
Gets a raise? He was looking at $100M+.
Not only will he likely lose a full years worth of salary but he'll be signing his next deal on league minimum.
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Is this individual my 1st or 2nd highest grossing salesman? Because if he is, we're going to sit down in my office, make sure we understand each other in terms of honest discussion, and then formulate a plan that we can both work with while this process is playing out.
Because that tactic worked out so well the first time.
Originally Posted by bobbything:
This the bed the Chiefs have made. This is their own fault. Is it worth sticking it out with him and stomaching the ensuing backlash that will occur just because you don't want him to play for another team in a year (this assumes no criminal prosecution)?
Yes
He'll only be here a year anyway. We're already taking backlash, might as well endure a little more.
Originally Posted by Mecca:
For me? I don't care about backlash, I care about winning.
I'd cheer for the worst people in the world to win a title.
Genuine question, Mecca. I realize the Hill situation is kinda in the air as there's the evidence/innocent-until-proven-guilty element to it. But let's say there were some guy who raped and tortured young children. And let's say you really thought he were guilty. He was arrested but because of some police misconduct in gathering evidence, he was released and returned to play football for the Kansas City Chiefs. Let's say he was our QB named Matrick Pahomes and he threw for 70 TDs and 70k yards.
Would you really have no qualms watching him each week and cheering for him?
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Genuine question, Mecca. I realize the Hill situation is kinda in the air as there's the evidence/innocent-until-proven-guilty element to it. But let's say there were some guy who raped and tortured young children. And let's say you really thought he were guilty. He was arrested but because of some police misconduct in gathering evidence, he was released and returned to play football for the Kansas City Chiefs. Let's say he was our QB named Matrick Pahomes and he threw for 70 TDs and 70k yards.
Would you really have no qualms watching him each week and cheering for him?
Probably not.....I admit my moral compass for sports is basically gone. To me if you aren't in jail then you can play.
50 years of futility makes me not give a shit as long as they win before I die.