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Donger 08:40 AM 04-23-2007
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

Spoiler!

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BleedingRed 08:45 AM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Gas tumbled briefly below $100 today. It was $130 a barrel just a week ago, right? When gas prices went up a couple of $’s they raises the prices at the pump immediately. The price drops 20%-30% and no one is seeing a drop at the pumps.

Can someone who understands the market explain why the price of a barrel of oil goes up, the local gas station raises the prices despite that same gas has been in then tank for a long time. But when the barrel price drops, it doesn’t drop at the gas pump. Why?
Because of hedging.

Basically Producers and Refiners buy product at agreed price, these contracts are between 1-3 years and margin dictates profits
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backinblack 10:48 AM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by Donger:
No, they aren't. At least not the national average.
yeah I'm sorry the national average isn't exactly on my mind when I'm driving past the same gas stations every day(though I haven't yet driven by them today tbf) and the prices are still creeping up. Sucks being behind the curve I guess.
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Bwana 12:07 PM 03-15-2022
I can't wait for this summer to hit and really watch it spike.



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Donger 12:08 PM 03-15-2022
Ummm... petroleum jelly.
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ptlyon 12:10 PM 03-15-2022
Even the cost of getting fucked is getting worse!
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Bwana 12:12 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by Donger:
Ummm... petroleum jelly.

Very true, but it should help ease the pain.
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BigRedChief 04:04 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Refiners are greedy, too.
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
Because they can...

Like when fuel went up after Katrina and airlines started charging higher rates and extra for baggage. Neither of which went down.

The price goes up immediately because they need to buy gasoline to replace what is currently being sold at a higher price. Which I understand however, I have never heard a compelling reason why the opposite is not true.

Other than they just can and do, do it... It's a fixed market with a constant demand, they can pretty much screw us as much as they want because there is no alternative. Asymmetric Price Adjustment. Because there is no competition, it doesn't behave like a normal consumer market. I found data that says it takes about 4 weeks for the price to go up fully and 8 weeks to come back down.

Or for the same reason cable companies will entice new customers with all sorts of promotions yet will force existing customers to call and haggle to get a better deal.
Originally Posted by Donger:
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB//sho...postcount=1206

And the rapid rise in gasoline prices has stopped, at least for now.
I get the greed. That’s our system. Personally since I got my Shaker, I don’t care about gas prices. Whatever they charge, I’ll pay. But there are a lot that do care. going up a dime makes a huge difference, especially independent truckers. They spend all that time away from the families and then they get their profit margins squeezed big time.

Supply and Demand at work. Except prices have dropped 30% in a week but the price here at the local pumps hadn’t declined much. They have laws down here in Florida about jacking up prices after a crisis aka hurricanes. They are serious about enforcement too. Put people in jail, not just fines. Why can’t this apply?
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BigRedChief 04:09 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Because of hedging.

Basically Producers and Refiners buy product at agreed price, these contracts are between 1-3 years and margin dictates profits
that makes sense. It’s worth whatever someone is willing to pay. I’d bet those who work and own those companies want stability, correct? Instability is bad for business, right?
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Donger 04:11 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I get the greed. That’s our system. Personally since I got my Shaker, I don’t care about gas prices. Whatever they charge, I’ll pay. But there are a lot that do care. going up a dime makes a huge difference, especially independent truckers. They spend all that time away from the families and then they get their profit margins squeezed big time.

Supply and Demand at work. Except prices have dropped 30% in a week but the price here at the local pumps hadn’t declined much. They have laws down here in Florida about jacking up prices after a crisis aka hurricanes. They are serious about enforcement too. Put people in jail, not just fines. Why can’t this apply?
When the price of crude goes through the roof, gasoline prices will as well. That's not price gouging.
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Bugeater 04:41 PM 03-15-2022
Had to gas up the Camaro today, $4.04 for non-ethanol blend. Go fuck yourself Donger.
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Donger 04:47 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Had to gas up the Camaro today, $4.04 for non-ethanol blend. Go **** yourself Donger.
Quite the bargain compared to the national average. Would you prefer to be paying that, fuck face?
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BigRedChief 05:06 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Had to gas up the Camaro today, $4.04 for non-ethanol blend. Go **** yourself Donger.
Time to go shopping for a Prius? :-)
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Bugeater 05:40 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by Donger:
Quite the bargain compared to the national average. Would you prefer to be paying that, fuck face?
Even at that price $15 gave me over a 1/2 tank, cock gobbler.
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penguinz 06:07 PM 03-15-2022
Down $0.10 to $3.69 at the QT by me for 87 octane.
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Capt_Von_Trapp 06:14 PM 03-15-2022
Originally Posted by penguinz:
Down $0.10 to $3.69 at the QT by me for 87 octane.
Dongers stiffy just went flat.
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