I'll try and update this periodically throughout the season.
17. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri
The Chiefs currently aren't getting any pressure on the quarterback. That's obviously because Justin Houston is out, but Dee Ford, starting in his place, has done nothing. Tamba Hali doesn't have much longer remaining as a pro, so the Chiefs will need to find a suitable replacement for him.
49. Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern
The Chiefs could spend a second-day selection on an inside linebacker, given that Derrick Johnson is nearing retirement. [Reply]
Andy Reid selected Kevin Kolb with his initial draft choice back in 2007. Donovan McNabb was entrenched as his starter, but he was about to turn 31, and Reid was thinking of the future. Perhaps Reid will make a similar decision at this juncture, as Alex Smith is a few months away from 33. Smith performed poorly this past season, so the Chiefs need to get better at quarterback anyway. Plus, DeShone Kizer seems like great value at this spot. Kizer has fallen in this mock draft update, but I think this is the right range for him.
59. Montravius Adams, DE/DT, Auburn
Andy Reid loves bolstering the trenches, and I imagine he'll do so after seeing his defense get gashed against the run all year.
91. Jordan Willis, DE/OLB, Kansas State
The Chiefs have Justin Houston, Tamba Hali and Dee Ford, but Hali won't be around much longer, while Ford is entering his contract year. Ford could command more money on the open market than the Chiefs are willing to pay him, and if so, this new edge rusher will come in handy.
122. Duke Riley, LB, LSU
Derrick Johnson is a 34-year-old coming off a torn Achilles that he suffered in December. It's highly unlikely that he'll be ready for the 2017 campaign, so the Chiefs need to find a new inside linebacker to play next to Ramik Wilson.
Originally Posted by Sfeihc:
Not sure if Lewis fits as a starting CB on the outside in Sutton's D. Agree with the Senior Bowl assessment that Lewis will excel as a nickel CB covering inside receivers. Don't think that that is worth their #1 when Nelson was solid in that role last season.
Yeah, I'm not sure if Lewis would fall to us in the 2nd, but the late 1st is too early for him.
I like him well enough, but he's not a first round talent, IMO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Nah - if Kizer, Trubisky or Mahomes are still there for us, I won't really care who else is on the board.
Something's gotta give. I really like Cunningham but if the QB is there, take the QB and be happy.
I agree completely, my only point was if they take a nickel corner with one of the QB's or Cunningham still on the board, that wouldn't be cool. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Urc Burry:
I think Kizer's stock has been dropping like a rock and people are starting to catch on. McShay and Kiper both had him out of the first round
What's causing it to drop? Nothing has changed since the season ended. [Reply]
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
What's causing it to drop? Nothing has changed since the season ended.
More film study would be my guess.
The initial impressions are usually based on a guys measureables and best plays. When you just look at his height/weight/arm and then see the things he's capable of doing, you are drooling over him.
Then when you look at how often he actually does those things as opposed to some of the erratic throws and silly decisions, you start to take pause. You can only get a real feel for that when you start to do deeper digging on each prospect.
I've seen a little more of Kizer than most as a ND fan, but I've also seen it as a fan so I'm not entirely objective I'm sure. And many others just see a big, broad dude with plus athleticism that shows the ability to throw it through a wall but as they see those times that he actually tries to throw it through a wall of defenders, they get a little skittish.
There are warts but the guy has physical ability on par with the best in the NFL right now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
More film study would be my guess.
The initial impressions are usually based on a guys measureables and best plays. When you just look at his height/weight/arm and then see the things he's capable of doing, you are drooling over him.
Then when you look at how often he actually does those things as opposed to some of the erratic throws and silly decisions, you start to take pause. You can only get a real feel for that when you start to do deeper digging on each prospect.
I've seen a little more of Kizer than most as a ND fan, but I've also seen it as a fan so I'm not entirely objective I'm sure. And many others just see a big, broad dude with plus athleticism that shows the ability to throw it through a wall but as they see those times that he actually tries to throw it through a wall of defenders, they get a little skittish.
There are warts but the guy has physical ability on par with the best in the NFL right now.
It annoys me when the talking heads bring up the fact that he got pulled twice last year late in games. Kelly royally fucked up the QB situation. I don't think any of that was on Kizer. That was all Kelly. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
More film study would be my guess.
The initial impressions are usually based on a guys measureables and best plays. When you just look at his height/weight/arm and then see the things he's capable of doing, you are drooling over him.
Then when you look at how often he actually does those things as opposed to some of the erratic throws and silly decisions, you start to take pause. You can only get a real feel for that when you start to do deeper digging on each prospect.
I've seen a little more of Kizer than most as a ND fan, but I've also seen it as a fan so I'm not entirely objective I'm sure. And many others just see a big, broad dude with plus athleticism that shows the ability to throw it through a wall but as they see those times that he actually tries to throw it through a wall of defenders, they get a little skittish.
There are warts but the guy has physical ability on par with the best in the NFL right now.
I'd damn sure take that over a guy who's physical ability is diminishing and is so risk averse he won't throw to a single covered receiver no matter how bad the mismatch! [Reply]
Having seen DeShone Kizer in Toledo, Oh in 2011 in HS, I'd be very happy with this pick. I'm from Toledo, so I'm definitely biased when it comes to Kizer. I'd love to see KC get him or Mahomes II. [Reply]
Mayock has Kizer as his #1 qb prospect for the 2017 draft.
I agree with him.
A lot of hype around Watson and Mahomes, but when you look into the reasons why maybe some are skittish about Kizerr, you circle back to the fact that he really had no receiving weapons and a very inexperienced, talent-deficient offensive line in front of him. He was surrounded by far superior talent in 2015, and the results speak for themselves. He also didn't get the vote of confidence from Kelly at season start which may have rattled him somewhat when there was a QB controversy to begin the season.
I think he has outstanding measurables, above average athleticism, he can make all the throws, and played in a respectable system with regards to having to make field reads. I will also say though that he was under-coached at Notre Dame and this may have stunted his progression, and that is why pundits are saying he may take a little while to develop.
If he for whatever reason is available at 27, you sprint to the podium and welcome him to Chiefs kingdom. [Reply]
