Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Reid is one of the best play designers in football. On some days he is also one of the best at calling plays. Other days are playoff games where he forgets to run the ball with an 18 point second half lead.
But you would think that when he calls a specific play, he understands why the play will work against a specific defense. So, if he knows when a play will work, he should know what defense would be able to stop the play.
To me, Reid should be a great asset when it comes to defending an offense. I wonder if Sutton even has any discussions with Reid about defense. I get the feeling when listening to Reid that he lets Sutton do whatever he wants, and has little input into defensive game plans.
Does anyone else think that Reid should take more of an interest in the defense?
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Your point makes sense yet Vermeil was the same way, all these guys know how to attack defenses so you think they'd build a defense they'd hate to face yet they can't do it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
There are defenses out there that are WAY more talented than the Chiefs, with top notch defensive coordinators, that are giving up 25+ points per game.
With this team's personnel and the league's emphasis on scoring, there isn't a defensive coordinator alive that could make this unit "good".
With the way you've spoken, Bon is top notch, I'm confused. Remember, it Veach, right? Oh, and if we give up 30 we win, Sutton's kids gave up 43. [Reply]
Reality is we should be more pissed at Veach than Sutton cause this fool though the talent level was alright. Oh and he supposedly fixed that run D too right? [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Ya the Chiefs have horrible personnel on defense but I'm fucking tired of seeing 3 man rushes on 3rd and long only to give up the first down because guess what our secondary still sucks.
When you get gashed for 7, 8, or 9 yards those 3rd and longs are rare, but "indeed" too. How smart does one have to be to know that you can't give Brady, or any NFL QB, 5-7 seconds? Especially when you know they play as much for a DPI and/or DH calls as they do actually completing the pass! And with this secondary if they don't complete the pass, a DH or DPI is a super-high probability in a flag-happy league. It's the game within the game that we don't really play.
Again, Sutton seems to be the only one who can't grasp these basic concepts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Reality is we should be more pissed at Veach than Sutton cause this fool though the talent level was alright. Oh and he supposedly fixed that run D too right?
Fuller. Watkins. Hitchens. Speaks. All players that we invested significant capital into. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Reality is we should be more pissed at Veach than Sutton cause this fool though the talent level was alright. Oh and he supposedly fixed that run D too right?
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
So apparently it doesn't matter who our defensive coordinator is. I guess coaches are like baseball managers and have very little effect on the performance of the players.
That's what I'm understanding. That's why you never hear BB getting any credit for the Pat's success in the last many year... Wait!
Well, let's just say, "Unless the guys do well", then the coach gets mega-credit for having them ready. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ROYC75:
And all will be fixed in 2 moves, even at mid season!
Face the fact folks, no move or 2 moves is going to fix this, with one being FIRE BOB SUTTON! Fire Bob, Who is the new DC, NOW, with a game in 7 days. Even with the lack of talent we desperately need on defense?
Who?
I seem to recall many on CP thinking him making it to this season, not being fired after last year's showing, was terribad, so telling those CP members that it's too late now for this season means nothing because those members remember that "this season" should never have happened for Bob. Those people were right, yes? The Chiefs were overcome, again, by loyalty. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
I seem to recall many on CP thinking him making it to this season, not being fired after last year's showing, was terribad, so telling those CP members that it's too late now for this season means nothing because those members remember that "this season" should never have happened for Bob. Those people were right, yes? The Chiefs were overcome, again, by loyalty.
If this was the talent another coordinator was given I'm not sure they'd be any better. [Reply]
