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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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Easy 6 02:49 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It is really frustrating for basically the teams highest paid player to stand on the sideline every week and not even answer questions about it.
No lie
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Mecca 02:55 PM 10-30-2018
I think all of this is doing a lot of hurt Berry's view in the fans eyes. Even if it's not true it makes him look like a dude that only cares to collect his checks.

The way his contract was handled didn't make him look great either...if this goes on all year and he never plays and this team loses in the playoffs he's going to get a ton of blame.
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GloryDayz 02:55 PM 10-30-2018
Lots of trading going on in the NFL today, too bad Clark didn't find somebody fitter than Eric Berry and me to play for Eric!
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GloryDayz 03:00 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I think all of this is doing a lot of hurt Berry's view in the fans eyes. Even if it's not true it makes him look like a dude that only cares to collect his checks.

The way his contract was handled didn't make him look great either...if this goes on all year and he never plays and this team loses in the playoffs he's going to get a ton of blame.
If that happens, I'll let him know what I think of him if I see him! But that's not going to happen, he'll bolt town and "rehab" on a beach. And his agent will probably try to keep him "day to day" (:-)) through next year too.
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Easy 6 03:03 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by DeepSouth:
I'd rather have Berry healthy for the playoffs than take a chance on him getting hurt against the likes of Cleveland or Arizona.
Your point about our next two games is fair enough, we shouldnt need him for those

But if he intends to make an impact this year, he needs to play by week 11 no matter what... he is going to need those last 5 games to knock the rust off and gel with all the new players

Suddenly just throwing him out there for a playoff game is NO GO
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pugsnotdrugs19 03:06 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Your point about our next two games is fair enough, we shouldnt need him for those

But if he intends to make an impact this year, he needs to play by week 11 no matter what... he is going to need those last 5 games to knock the rust off and gel with all the new players

Suddenly just throwing him out there for a playoff game is NO GO
This.

Hell, even bringing him back for just the Rams game seems like a bad idea, not sure he’d do much good that week. That injury just isn’t going away.

I’d like to see him back in the lineup against Arizona and if not, shit I don’t even know.
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Mecca 03:07 PM 10-30-2018
If he has any hope of doing anything he has to be out there for the last month otherwise he'll be rusty and have no chemistry with the team so in short he'll be a liability out there.
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Easy 6 03:08 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
This.

Hell, even bringing him back for just the Rams game seems like a bad idea, not sure he’d do much good that week. That injury just isn’t going away.

I’d like to see him back in the lineup against Arizona and if not, shit I don’t even know.
He could and should play against the Rams IMO, we're gonna need all the help we can get

Just limit his snaps, work him back in slowly
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GloryDayz 03:09 PM 10-30-2018
Eric Berry. Not a gladiator...
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In58men 03:15 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Eric Berry. Not a gladiator...
This.

He’ll be back.
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bigjosh 03:15 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
:-)



As soon as you can explain why they would be hiding something, an actual explanation that makes sense, I would love to hear it.


There could be tons of reasons why they aren’t being upfront.

If they cleared him to play, but he is the one holding himself out they can’t come out and say “he is being a bitch and won’t play because of the ouchies.”

That’s a bad look.
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Strongside 03:50 PM 10-30-2018
I'm just firmly in the "either play him or put him on IR" camp at this point.

I'm sick of the vagueness from this franchise, its front office and the medical staff.

I honestly don't know that I remember a weirder situation with an injury in professional sports. The only one that comes to mind is Houston's knee – which is alarming because it's the same fucking team.
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Strongside 03:53 PM 10-30-2018
Fact: Berry has to play in the Cardinals game or he'll miss more time battling a bone spur than he did battling cancer.
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oldman 03:56 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
If he has any hope of doing anything he has to be out there for the last month otherwise he'll be rusty and have no chemistry with the team so in short he'll be a liability out there.
This.
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Marcellus 03:58 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
There could be tons of reasons why they aren’t being upfront.

If they cleared him to play, but he is the one holding himself out they can’t come out and say “he is being a bitch and won’t play because of the ouchies.”

That’s a bad look.
Well if that's what it is (I don't believe that to be true) they aren't hiding anything. That's what 75% of the people in this thread are claiming.
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