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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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ToxSocks 01:42 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:

Given all 3 of those things, I think most here are actually quite tame. If this were Philly or New York, the page would be full of death threats.
If this were Philly or NY we'd have answers.
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ToxSocks 01:43 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It is really frustrating for basically the teams highest paid player to stand on the sideline every week and not even answer questions about it.
For sure.
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DeepSouth 01:44 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Your concern is that he gets hurt before the playoffs. What's the different between 5 games and 7 games? Is it solely because it's the Browns and Cardinals?

Sorry but that just doesn't make much sense. If he's ready to play, he's not at an increased chance of injury, regardless of who they are playing. If 2 games are the difference between him playing and not playing in the playoffs, he should have been put on IR.
Dude, are you really saying that you "DON'T" have a better chance of getting hurt if you play in 7 games versus 5 games ? The more games a player plays in, the higher chance is he'll get hurt.
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OKchiefs 01:45 PM 10-30-2018
If the defense ends up costing us a potential championship, Eric Berry should be public enemy #1 and not be able to show his face in town.
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Titty Meat 01:45 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
If the defense ends up costing us a potential championship, Eric Berry should be public enemy #1 and not be able to show his face in town.
Stupid
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ToxSocks 01:57 PM 10-30-2018
Welp back to hoping Berry saves out safety woes.
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OKchiefs 02:08 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Welp back to hoping Berry saves out safety woes.
About 21 hours away from hearing he still isn't practicing.

Fuck Eric Berry.
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Mecca 02:13 PM 10-30-2018
I've given up on that, he isn't part of the team, he's like a bigfoot.

He's just this guy that collects his check and stands there.
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TambaBerry 02:27 PM 10-30-2018
Fuck you Eric Berry either get on the field or retire and save us money
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KC Dan 02:28 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I've given up on that, he isn't part of the team, he's like a bigfoot.

He's just this guy that collects his check and stands there.
Probably our best looking cheerleader or at the very least, in the running/limping for it
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OKchiefs 02:33 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
Fuck you Eric Berry either get on the field or retire and save us money
If he retires we still take a huge cap hit. Fuck Berry.
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htismaqe 02:42 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by DeepSouth:
Dude, are you really saying that you "DON'T" have a better chance of getting hurt if you play in 7 games versus 5 games ? The more games a player plays in, the higher chance is he'll get hurt.
That's sheer mathematical probability and has nothing to do with the relative health of the player.

Are you seriously holding him out of two games just for that? If that's the guess, he might as well not play at all because, coin flip, he COULD get hurt on the next play.
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GloryDayz 02:45 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It is really frustrating for basically the teams highest paid player to stand on the sideline every week and not even answer questions about it.
That's what's lead to me being rather mean about it. If he really cared about playing as much as Clark says, he wouldn't be able to resist talking about it.
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ToxSocks 02:46 PM 10-30-2018
Eric Berry has you right where he wants you.
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ToxSocks 02:46 PM 10-30-2018
Tomorrow is the day, guys. Tomorrow is the day.
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