I agree on hiring and firing a coach in one year being stupid.

That being said, if you're going to hire a new coach like that I think all bets on prior personnel are null and void.

The question becomes, does the new coach like Murray better than Rosen?

Personally, I kinda do. In a spread-em-out type offense like Kingsbury runs? Absolutely. Murray's got that 'it' thing; only questions are height and experience.

I think Rosen's ceiling is somewhere around a Flacco type. I don't find that exciting or worth building around. IF Murray reaches his ceiling, it could be a Wilson/Mayfield type situation; clearly a QB to build around. You can probably pick up a late #1 for Rosen.

I'd do it.
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There's a reason the Cardinals are widely regarded as a joke through most of its history
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I agree.

I think best case scenario, Rosen is only average-ish in that system. But Murray might become a star within Kingsbury’s offense.

And if he doesn’t, maybe you get lucky and get to draft Lawrence in a couple of years or whatever.

I’m just an advocate for swinging big on QBs.
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troof.

the problem is the inconsistency. If you take each hire in a vacuum, then you give the new coach what he wants and roll with it.

You just can't scrap it all and do it again next year.
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They'll convince themselves that Rosen is a good QB and not trade him just because the Patriots want him lol.
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I think you have to. I don't know with the current rules emphasis that you can consistently contend without an elite QB. Literally nothing else matters if that's not in place.

Man, it feels good to be a gangster.
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Barring some crazy offer from elsewhere, I bet Collins is a Chief within a few hours of hitting the market. It just makes too much sense for both sides.

I’d like a 4-5 year deal at $9-10M per realistically. If someone comes in wanting to pay him Berry money, I’d say no thanks and move on.
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I hope you’re right but I don’t see it happening
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Wilks was truly awful and that's like one of the few times I'll understand one and done. Why they didn't totally clean house, I have no idea. Why they didn't get guys that believe in Josh Rosen, once again I have no idea.

I'm not sold that Rosen is going to the Patriots because I think the main focus in NE is still trying to squeeze every last bit from Tom Brady.
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Landon Collins is a good player, but I think he's getting overvalued on CP. Morgan Burnett was another pretty good in the box safety and didn't get much in the open market last year.

I don't the FA safeties are going to rack up the bank this year.
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Which is why its the perfect time to go get one!!
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I agree. We sadly emboldened them. And now we're going to have to kick them from the playoffs until they get the message.
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Collins is 25 and a former All-Pro. Burnett was over 30 and never on his level.

He will get solid money, from the Chiefs IMO.
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They have 6 picks in the top 100 and 12 overall. They have lots of flexibility.
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any contract is a risk; but Collins is as solid a bet as there is. Plus player, has already thrived in this scheme under this coach, is 25, no injury history.

That's a guy you pay.
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