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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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OKchiefs 01:10 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
If this were NY or Philly, there would be sports columnists and radio hosts questioning his manhood.
Which is going a little far for a media member, but for the love of God can we not have some media that aren't afraid to call players or coaches out? The Chargers have Bosa at least talking to the media, meanwhile Berry stands on the sideline each week looking like a hobo without a peep. There should be more pressure from the media as to why he was never put on IR yet has been day to day for almost 3 months.
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Easy 6 01:14 PM 10-30-2018
Even this guys staunchest defenders expected him back by now

If they'd only come out with the truth about whats going on, so we could all move on... the mystery and silence surrounding this situation is maddening
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DeepSouth 01:20 PM 10-30-2018
I'd rather have Berry healthy for the playoffs than take a chance on him getting hurt against the likes of Cleveland or Arizona. The Chiefs are winning without him. Why take a chance on him getting hurt when you don't need him. I expect him to be back after the bye week. Same can be said about Houston. Speaks is filling in nicely. Get them healthy for the playoffs.
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htismaqe 01:20 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by DeepSouth:
I'd rather have Berry healthy for the playoffs than take a chance on him getting hurt against the likes of Cleveland or Arizona. The Chiefs are winning without him. Why take a chance on him getting hurt when you don't need him. I expect him to be back after the bye week. Same can be said about Houston. Speaks is filling in nicely. Get them healthy for the playoffs.
They can't just come in in the playoffs and play cold. That's a sure way to see them get injured.

:-)
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King_Chief_Fan 01:24 PM 10-30-2018
Is Berry milking it, is Reid holding hin back, is really hurt and not able to come back?
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Marcellus 01:26 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Which is going a little far for a media member, but for the love of God can we not have some media that aren't afraid to call players or coaches out? The Chargers have Bosa at least talking to the media, meanwhile Berry stands on the sideline each week looking like a hobo without a peep. There should be more pressure from the media as to why he was never put on IR yet has been day to day for almost 3 months.
I know this is going to blow your mind......

You may actually know everything there is to know about it already.
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Mecca 01:28 PM 10-30-2018
It is really frustrating for basically the teams highest paid player to stand on the sideline every week and not even answer questions about it.
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DeepSouth 01:28 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They can't just come in in the playoffs and play cold. That's a sure way to see them get injured.

:-)
That's why I said, "I expect him back after the bye". There are five games after the bye week.
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OKchiefs 01:29 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They can't just come in in the playoffs and play cold. That's a sure way to see them get injured.

:-)
Not to mention, playing defense is similar to playing on the OL or similar to the QB/WR connection in that playing together and building communication and trust is immensely important. Expecting Houston and Berry to just magically show up and dominate in the playoffs is a recipe for big plays being given up from them being Rusty and not in sync with the rest of their teammates.
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OKchiefs 01:31 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I know this is going to blow your mind......

You may actually know everything there is to know about it already.
If you really believe that then be my guest. It's pretty apparent that you like to toe the company line and believe everything they feed us.
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Mecca 01:31 PM 10-30-2018
One thing I will agree with is Berry is lucky he plays here, if this were the East Coast he would be getting roasted by fans and media alike.
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htismaqe 01:32 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by DeepSouth:
That's why I said, "I expect him back after the bye". There are five games after the bye week.
Your concern is that he gets hurt before the playoffs. What's the different between 5 games and 7 games? Is it solely because it's the Browns and Cardinals?

Sorry but that just doesn't make much sense. If he's ready to play, he's not at an increased chance of injury, regardless of who they are playing. If 2 games are the difference between him playing and not playing in the playoffs, he should have been put on IR.
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Marcellus 01:32 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It is really frustrating for basically the teams highest paid player to stand on the sideline every week and not even answer questions about it.
It may be frustrating but it doesn't change a thing whether he talks about it or not.

Until he is placed on IR you have to assume he is coming back at some point. That's all there is to it. :-)
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Marcellus 01:33 PM 10-30-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
If you really believe that then be my guest. It's pretty apparent that you like to toe the company line and believe everything they feed us.
:-)

As soon as you can explain why they would be hiding something, an actual explanation that makes sense, I would love to hear it.
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Mecca 01:34 PM 10-30-2018
I hope for his sake and everyone elses he does return otherwise he is going to be remembered as the guy who fleeced the Chiefs for a ton of money and no performance more than any of his playing career.
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