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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!
Al Bundy 08:21 PM 04-13-2018

We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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BigCatDaddy 07:52 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I am one of the only people in the world that thinks LeBron "firing" Blatt was a huge mistake. I always hated the way he was treated. Blatt built a tough and scrappy team. Lue doesnt have any strategy except iso and Chuck up 3s then stand around on defense.
It is butt fucking ugly to watch but that's not Lue that is on James. He wants the ball and the stats. Basically a bigger Westbroook.
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O.city 07:59 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
It is butt ****ing ugly to watch but that's not Lue that is on James. He wants the ball and the stats. Basically a bigger Westbroook.
Not untrue.

We'll see what he does in the offseason, but unless he changes some things, gonna be tough for him to win championships playing that way.
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dirk digler 08:01 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
It is butt fucking ugly to watch but that's not Lue that is on James. He wants the ball and the stats. Basically a bigger Westbroook.
Lebron is nothing like that loser Westbrook. He is one of the best all time willing passers.
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BigCatDaddy 08:09 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Lebron is nothing like that loser Westbrook. He is one of the best all time willing passers.
WB avg 10 asst per game..Both guys are stat whores.
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staylor26 08:11 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Not untrue.

We'll see what he does in the offseason, but unless he changes some things, gonna be tough for him to win championships playing that way.
You’re a smart dude
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chiefzilla1501 08:12 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
It is butt ****ing ugly to watch but that's not Lue that is on James. He wants the ball and the stats. Basically a bigger Westbroook.
It is on James because he didn't want a coach to coach him, and he refused to make it work. He then asked for Lue.

And lue has a big hand in this. Lue wanted three point shooters. It was one of the first things he said when he took over. So we got rid of the dellavadovas and the mosgovs and replaced them with korver, channing Frye, etc....

I'm convinced lue doesn't have any gameplan. At least with Blatt you saw that. His defensive gameplan against Golden state was brilliant. I agree that lue isn't entirely to blame for LeBron iso ball. But he is absolutely responsible for having three point shooters who play no defense and total lack of toughness on defense and the boards.
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O.city 08:14 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Not untrue.

We'll see what he does in the offseason, but unless he changes some things, gonna be tough for him to win championships playing that way.
I don't know how they can put anything around him in Cleveland to win a championship, so his best chance is probably going to Houston.

I don't know that he'll go there and try and blend in with what they do or try and change it to what he's doing now, obviously that won't work against GS.

The problem with it isn't necessarily that what he's doing now doesn't work, when they spread it out and such, he's unstoppable. He just can't do it for a whole game without tiring. It's too much and they don't have enough around him to help when he isn't going.

But the way the Warriors are going, man, I don't know that it matters for the next 2 or 3 years.
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O.city 08:15 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You’re a smart dude
Duh.
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chiefzilla1501 08:15 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Lebron is nothing like that loser Westbrook. He is one of the best all time willing passers.
Agreed. Not even close to the same thing. LeBron isn't a stat whore by any stretch. He's been blamed often for passing up shots if anything. I don't love the iso ball but he does it because he thinks it's the best way to win.
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dirk digler 08:16 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
WB avg 10 asst per game..Both guys are stat whores.
Lebron is not a stat whore but Russ definitely is. I honestly don't think Lebron cares about his stats at this point.
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chiefzilla1501 08:18 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I don't know how they can put anything around him in Cleveland to win a championship, so his best chance is probably going to Houston.

I don't know that he'll go there and try and blend in with what they do or try and change it to what he's doing now, obviously that won't work against GS.

The problem with it isn't necessarily that what he's doing now doesn't work, when they spread it out and such, he's unstoppable. He just can't do it for a whole game without tiring. It's too much and they don't have enough around him to help when he isn't going.

But the way the Warriors are going, man, I don't know that it matters for the next 2 or 3 years.
It's doable. They have the #8 pick. Kevin love is an easy trade. Tristan Thompson in a salary dump. Would save a shit load of money you can use for 2-3 core players. A lot of their current roster would be fine if they were just role players. They could build a team much better than what they have. But yeah, if he wants the best supporting cast, there are better opportunities than cleveland. But he could make it work.
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O.city 08:21 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
It's doable. They have the #8 pick. Kevin love is an easy trade. Tristan Thompson in a salary dump. Would save a shit load of money you can use for 2-3 core players. A lot of their current roster would be fine if they were just role players. They could build a team much better than what they have. But yeah, if he wants the best supporting cast, there are better opportunities than cleveland. But he could make it work.
If the goal is to beat Golden State, unless they can bring in Kawhi and Anthony Davis, it isn't happening in Cleveland.
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ChiefsCountry 08:25 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I am one of the only people in the world that thinks LeBron "firing" Blatt was a huge mistake. I always hated the way he was treated. Blatt built a tough and scrappy team. Lue doesnt have any strategy except iso and Chuck up 3s then stand around on defense.
You are fucking idiot that is why. No team wants Blatt as their coach, and the NBA is a retread league.
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dirk digler 08:32 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I don't know how they can put anything around him in Cleveland to win a championship, so his best chance is probably going to Houston.

I don't know that he'll go there and try and blend in with what they do or try and change it to what he's doing now, obviously that won't work against GS.

The problem with it isn't necessarily that what he's doing now doesn't work, when they spread it out and such, he's unstoppable. He just can't do it for a whole game without tiring. It's too much and they don't have enough around him to help when he isn't going.

But the way the Warriors are going, man, I don't know that it matters for the next 2 or 3 years.
I think he probably stays in Cleveland but who knows. He would have to take a pay cut to go to Houston and they would have to gut that team. I just don't see it. Maybe Philly but then you would have to get rid of Simmons. Also alot of this will depend on what Paul George does as well.
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O.city 08:35 AM 05-16-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I think he probably stays in Cleveland but who knows. He would have to take a pay cut to go to Houston and they would have to gut that team. I just don't see it. Maybe Philly but then you would have to get rid of Simmons. Also alot of this will depend on what Paul George does as well.
If they could bring in George to Cleveland, keep Love and add another really good piece, maybe.
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