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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)
TLO 07:03 PM 01-19-2020
Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.
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BangbangNinerGang 03:59 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by R Clark:
It’s my understanding that zone blocking came from daddy, so nothing new about that Andy will have it figured out no sweat
Got me there! Definitely has not added anything to it. And it is so easy to, not just figure out, but teach players to react to that it has had no success or yielded any accolades.
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The Franchise 03:59 PM 01-21-2020
The Titans fans all warned us about how physical they were compared to us. How’d that fucking turn out?
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Megatron96 04:00 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
But have you seen how physical they are?

They really should've told us we'd have to play a team from the NFC when they changed the rules to make the AFC playoffs a flag football format.

Frank Clark's gonna be pissed when he finds out the Super Bowl isn't two-hand touch.
Why do they always bring up physicality? Is it written somewhere that an AFC team can't be physical?
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Clyde Frog 04:01 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
The Titans fans all warned us about how physical they were compared to us. How’d that fucking turn out?
I would ask them but dicktuck is a real thing and not just a scene in Silence of the Lambs.
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staylor26 04:02 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
You're fine. It's a lighter day than normal here.

Bosa had a grand total of 2 sacks and 4 TFL in the four games he played against those three teams/four tackles. I wouldn't really call that making fools of them. Schwartz and Fisher compare with any of them (And I'd take Schwartz at RT over anyone in the NFL).

If the 49ers come out and try to use Dee Ford inside on regular downs, or even if they come out and just try to use him on early downs, I expect KC to run right at him and exploit his one-dimensional nature. Will be interesting. Look for 21 personnel if KC is seeing Ford, with Blake Bell assigned to deal with Ford and free up Fisher/Schwartz to get to the second level.

^ 21 also seems to be KC's favored grouping for screen game action. They'll use Kelce or Bell as well as Williams in the screen game, and will run action to both sides of the field.



The game against the Saints is definitely the biggest counter to the "just a game manager" tag for Garoppolo. It's the one that really stands out.

But like I was saying, we've got 40 years of history watching game managers and seeing them occasionally have that one shining moment. All those things you just said in his defense? They're things Chiefs fans have been saying prior to Mahomes about every guy except Montana and Green.

Thus, they ring hollow/false. I know the 49ers played that Baltimore game in bad passing conditions, but they win that game with a few more plays in the passing game from Garoppolo.

The other game you cited was a home win against a non-playoff team quarterbacked by Mason Rudolph, in which Garoppolo never trailed by more than one score, threw for a pedestrian yardage total, and threw two picks that led to 6 points for the opposing team.

You understand why that doesn't make the case for being more than a guy who leans on his D and run game, right?
Didn’t the Saints lose both Davenport and Rankins in that game against the 49ers? I feel like that could’ve had something to do with Jimmy G having success against an otherwise good defense.
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stevieray 04:03 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by Deebo19:
It'll be a battle of the 49er systematic machine vs the offensive speed and improvisational Chiefs.
Improvisational Chiefs?

:-)

Mahomes is a surgeon.

You'll just have to learn like so many before you.
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wachashi 04:03 PM 01-21-2020
Andy’s not dialing up designed QB runs. Mahomes will run if there’s an opening and he has the ability to throw on the run. Not sure why Niner fans are coming in here with Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray comparisons. Mahomes is way, WAY different.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04:03 PM 01-21-2020

QB Grades in the Conference Championships

• PATRICK MAHOMES: 96.1
• Jimmy Garoppolo: 61.7
• Aaron Rodgers: 60.2
• Ryan Tannehill: 56.3

��: Jeff Curry, USA Todayhttps://t.co/eQoKvEmIss#ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/B3EJxXVdlp

— PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) January 21, 2020

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RunKC 04:03 PM 01-21-2020
Harold Landry has 9 sacks this year. Jurrell Casey is a top 10 interior rusher and Jeff Simmons is a very talented 1st rd interior rusher.

We shut them down completely. The only reason they hit Mahomes the few times they did was bc Pat held onto the ball too long.

The OL has been so goddamn good the last 2 games. They haven’t had a performance as good as those two games all season.

If these guys keep playing that way, we’ll beat the Niners by double-digits.
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staylor26 04:03 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Why do they always bring up physicality? Is it written somewhere that an AFC team can't be physical?
No people think we’re soft because we’re a passing team and they think it’s the same defense from last year and the first half of this season.
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Megatron96 04:05 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by wachashi:
Andy’s not dialing up designed QB runs. Mahomes will run if there’s an opening and he has the ability to throw on the run. Not sure why Niner fans are coming in here with Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray comparisons. Mahomes is way, WAY different.
There's getting their comparisons from ESPN/FoxSports pundits. Skip Bayless says, "Mahomes somethingsomethingsomething just like Lamar . . ." And they come away with "Mahomes is just like Lamar," or whatever.
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Eleazar 04:07 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
Improvisational Chiefs?

:-)

Mahomes is a surgeon.

You'll just have to learn like so many before you.
Reid is anything but improvisational. The man is a tactician who schemes and plans like nobody's business.
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duncan_idaho 04:07 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by Deebo19:
I think a big difference is with our linebackers. Warner, Kwon, and Greenlaw are all excellent pass defenders.
How many of those guys are staying on the field against 11 sets?

KC will use 12 sets (I've been transposing this, but meant 2 TE, 2 WR), but it also spends more time in 11 (basically 1/2).

If they aren't finding passing success with 12 due to the LB, they'll switch to 11 sets and push one of them off the field or force a LB to cover Hardman/Hill/Watkins in short zones, which is a major mismatch.
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SanDiego49er 04:07 PM 01-21-2020
What caused you to lose the 4 games? What was the match up against you? Team that played well against you? Injuries you had and so on?

Why did you lose the games you lost this year? What were the toughest match ups and why?

:-)
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Megatron96 04:07 PM 01-21-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
No people think we’re soft because we’re a passing team and they think it’s the same defense from last year and the first half of this season.
Soooo . . . they're ignorant and uninformed?
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