I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.
Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
/Chiefs fans every draft season
CP is all about drafting a QB just to draft a QB and the guys they've wanted have all sucked. Very few on here actually watch college football. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Right. Last year, Prescott was a shit prospect and now everybody is sucking his dick.
You're stretching this. He waa viewed fairly positive but tumbled because he was stupid and got a DUI shortly before the draft.
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
Casserly say's there are no legit 1st rdrs this year and a handful of teams will get burned because of their need pushing these guys up from actual 3rd to 4th rd actual talent. Is he correct ??
2nd, 3rd round talent will be pushed up the board every single draft until significant nfl rule changes.
You have a system that encourages more people to leave school earlier which makes for more not ready players and a major demand for QBs rockets them up the board.
You either deal with it or suck shit for over 50 years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I'd be jumping up and down if they take Mahomes at 27, Billay.
I was a huge Brett Favre fan and if they draft Mahomes, both sides of the football will be fun to watch.
If Reid/Dorsey think the kid is worth a 1st who am I to question them? I'll be happy this franchise finally drafted a QB. I'm not sold on him though and see this as teams playing poker. [Reply]
DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame: “He looks the part. He’s got the size you want, a really good arm. When you watch Kizer there’s a lot of things that you really like. But then there’s an issue when you watch him on tape that he has what we call ‘slow eyes.’ He tends to be a beat late on a lot of throws. If you’re a beat late in college, that just gets exacerbated at the NFL level. That doesn’t mean you’re not going to draft him, but it’s something you need to be aware of and work on. As you build your offense with DeShone Kizer, you have to be aware of certain route concepts and play calls that might make that problem worse.”
Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech: “He’s got a very good arm. He’s a loose thrower. But he played in the Air Raid offense for Kliff Kingsbury. It’s an offense built on timing and structure and rhythm, and he played with almost no timing and structure and rhythm. He’s really gifted in a lot of areas. But buried under a lot of NFL-type talent is an alarming lack of any refinement for the position at this moment. He’s someone who’s going to need to be coached hard, harnessed. He’s going to have to be receptive to the principles of being a nuanced, disciplined NFL quarterback. The playmaking mentality that he thrived on in college is going to have to be channeled and almost re-trained. He needs to be receptive to that.”
Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina: “There’s a toughness and competitiveness to the way he plays that’s very appealing. For the most part he was safe with the football. But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball. So there’s a lot of throws with Trubisky that at the intermediate and deep-intermediate level where the ball loses energy. A lot of those throws in college were successful, they were touchdowns, but they were not throws that will work in the NFL. Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching. It’s just something you have to be aware of.”
Deshaun Watson, Clemson: “He’ll be an intriguing guy because he’s played in a lot of big games and for the most part has had success. Different teams will quantify that differently, but it does mean something. He’s a little smaller than you’d ideally desire. He’ll gain weight to be as rocked-up as he can, so the number on the scale will look good. My guess is he’ll get to 218, 220, but he’s not really a 220-pound guy. He’s a little bit of a placer of the football in the way he throws. He doesn’t really drive the football. So he’s got a good arm, but not the ideal arm you’d like to see. He’s what you’d call an orchestrator and distributor of the football. He’s a point guard. He’ll need weapons around him and a run game. He has enhanced value because he can run. But as far as a thrower from the pocket, you’re going to need to work with him. He’s in some ways like an Alex Smith-type player.”
Being a locked-leg passer is something that I just started watching for last season after seeing Charlie Casserly talk about it and yeah, it's a real thing and it fucking sucks.
Those guys can't drive the ball very well and they use that front leg as a crutch to almost 'lift' themselves into loft passes. It's a terrible habit and I don't understand how it's taught and not broken.
I haven't really dug into the QBs much, but that limits Trubisky's ceiling somewhat, IMO.
Mahomes and Kizer are still the two guys I think I'd really want from this class. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Being a locked-leg passer is something that I just started watching for last season after seeing Charlie Casserly talk about it and yeah, it's a real thing and it fucking sucks.
Those guys can't drive the ball very well and they use that front leg as a crutch to almost 'lift' themselves into loft passes. It's a terrible habit and I don't understand how it's taught and not broken.
I haven't really dug into the QBs much, but that limits Trubisky's ceiling somewhat, IMO.
Mahomes and Kizer are still the two guys I think I'd really want from this class.
Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana:
Literally **** all of these middling QB prospects.
I don't want any of them.
This is 98% of draft classes. 2018 draft class is a myth. All these hyped QB's will be gone and Mason Rudolph/Luke Falk are no different than these guys. [Reply]