So I have an uncomfortable question to ask- I have a trashy co-worker who's a huge loud mouth bitch. She tells the whole office her business. Usually I just ignore it because I don't care and it's none of my business.
Lately she's been talking about some obnoxious fucked up shit. She's talked about how she and her bf drive with her kids in the car after they've been drinking "but aren't to the point of being fucked up" pretty stupid but whatever. Anyway she shares some of the most vile disturbing shit the other day about how she caught her nephew doing sexual stuff with her daughter like finger in the vagina.
I don't want to go to HR about it because it will just get me in trouble. Would I be out of line to report it to CPS? This lady sounds like she has no business having children. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Am I an asshole for doing so? I mean it's not my business but when you loudly talk about it infront of everyone WTF
no, you're not an asshole. reporting this is the right thing to do IMO. it's unlikely that she'll like get her kids taken away unless CPS finds something even worse. driving drunk with your kids is child endangerment, the kids have no choice but to be in that situation. maybe getting a visit from CPS is the wake up call they need to not be shitty parents. [Reply]
Originally Posted by luv:
I get where Katipan is coming from. To know about a crime against a child and to not know if you should do something about it, and having to come to CP for advice on what to do, is pretty gutless. I mean, c'mon man.
However, I do agree that filing a police report probably wouldn't do much good. Police are going to ask for evidence of a crime being committed. The only time I would call the police over CPS would be if you know something is currently happening in the home at the time of the call. They'll respond to an actual crime vs. "I heard someone say". Just makes sense that hearsay should be reported to the investigating authority. If they see evidence of a crime, they'll get the proper authorities involved.
Cut Katipan some slack. It's not a bad thing to go into "mama bear" mode and want to see action. Again, I do agree that calling Billay out over his morals and ethics (and possible attempt to just get attention) was a needed slap in the face. Just grow a pair and do what needs to be done.
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
Excuse me, sir. It appears you read the OP and have put together a very logical response based on the facts available to you. Not sure this is the place for that. This is the place to attack Billay and label him a scumbag for not reporting a clear and obvious horrific crime against a child! Not sure Womble will ever see you the same now.
Edit: Obviously if there is ever any evidence that an adult or older child (teenager or teenager adjacent) is touching a younger child (any child if it's an adult involved) that person should be prosecuted. If it's an adult involved, they should be nuked from space. Two kids playing doctor and some white trashy banshee bloviating about it does not necessarily cross that threshold. Just to be clear.
It's quite funny how the only person you've named (me) was inserted right after the sentence talking about Billay being attacked and labelled a scumbag. Clearly you're still mad after I eviscerated you for writing moronic shit in another thread. That's rather pathetic of you.
Also if you're going to downplay a ten year old girl being molested as "two kids playing doctor" then I really do hope you don't have kids. Kids can do sick, disgusting and traumatic things to other kids.
Originally Posted by Womble:
It's quite funny how the only person you've named (me) was inserted right after the sentence talking about Billay being attacked and labelled a scumbag. Clearly you're still mad after I eviscerated you for writing moronic shit in another thread. That's rather pathetic of you.
Also if you're going to downplay a ten year old girl being molested as "two kids playing doctor" then I really do hope you don't have kids. Kids can do sick, disgusting and traumatic things to other kids.
Billay isn't a scumbag, you are.
I don't have any input on the rest of your post, but wanted to say that the kids that do stuck, disgusting and traumatic things to other kids have usually had those things done to them by an adult. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
You accuse him of knowing about an assault and thinking about withholding that. That’s an extreme misrepresentation of the situation.
No, I'm sure he will get to it eventually now. [Reply]
I mean, like I said, if he's in missouri and reports this, being a heresay situation, CPS is severely understaffed and 99% they won't even look into it. IF they do, it'll be a phone call and they'll give up the second time it goes to voicemail.
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
There's nothing gutless about a man deciding if what he's heard is worth having a child removed from its home.
This isn't like reporting a fucking barking dog.
If Billay is wrong, this could destroy and entire family and fuck that child's life forever.
This is not a decision to be taken lightly, and you and Katipan and anyone else acting like it is is complete bullshit.
Yes, this is the type of conversation a person SHOULD have with others. He SHOULD be getting insight from others before recklessly reporting accusations all willy-nilly Karen like. Because it's a decision that could potentially alter the lives of other human beings in the most significant way.
CLEARLY Billay is on the fence about whether what he's heard is enough to warrant having a child removed from their parents, and he's looking for advice from others on what they think. That's GOOD.
Trying to question his manhood because he's putting thought and weighing opinions before starting a process that could potentially ruin a child/family is absolutely ridiculous and i can't believe im even reading this shit right now.
I have a client, single dad that went from not on the birth certificate to being the sole custody over years. We are talking court ordered parenting classes, various legal battles, etc. He’s not the best parent to be certain but seems to actually care and try unlike the absentee mom who at this point has all but abandoned the child. His kid, playing too rough or not knowing how to play, got some scratches from a new dog on his arm. Nothing crazy but noticeable enough.
A teacher reported it suspecting abuse. So of course he gets a visit and has to be grilled about everything but because of a typical interaction between a kid and a dog my client became at the mercy of a CPS person correctly assessing the situation, the living conditions, basic care, etc. My client was understandably stressed about all this as he knows he isn’t on the surest of footing in the state’s eyes. He decided to get rid of the dog to prevent any further similar interactions. He became very paranoid about his kid getting any sort of injuries in the regular course of play and activities. It definitely affected what he felt comfortable doing for a while, which of course further affected his already not yet great parenting skills.
The point being, people do over report or unnecessarily report things. And there can be harmful side effects. It’s not always black and white on what should be reported and it’s certainly worth thinking “what if I’m wrong, maybe I should get other opinions.” [Reply]
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
I mean, like I said, if he's in missouri and reports this, being a heresay situation, CPS is severely understaffed and 99% they won't even look into it. IF they do, it'll be a phone call and they'll give up the second time it goes to voicemail.
So all this is honestly a moot point.
But at least a file will be started. If there's actual abuse/neglect occurring then they'll be one step closer to a visit.
And if it's that bad, who's to say a file hasn't already been started, and billay's report could aid in the child's removal.
I agree that it won't result in immediate action. But i don't agree that it's moot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
I mean, like I said, if he's in missouri and reports this, being a heresay situation, CPS is severely understaffed and 99% they won't even look into it. IF they do, it'll be a phone call and they'll give up the second time it goes to voicemail.
So all this is honestly a moot point.
Which is why you file a police report.
And then another one the next time.
And then another one.
Not to mention CPS cases don't follow the parent across state lines unless there is a cooperative referral. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
I don't have any input on the rest of your post, but wanted to say that the kids that do stuck, disgusting and traumatic things to other kids have usually had those things done to them by an adult.
Well....that's not at all true, but you do you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Womble:
It's quite funny how the only person you've named (me) was inserted right after the sentence talking about Billay being attacked and labelled a scumbag. Clearly you're still mad after I eviscerated you for writing moronic shit in another thread. That's rather pathetic of you.
Also if you're going to downplay a ten year old girl being molested as "two kids playing doctor" then I really do hope you don't have kids. Kids can do sick, disgusting and traumatic things to other kids.
Billay isn't a scumbag. You are.
:-). I don't care about anything you said here. You're just so easy to send on tilt, that I have to do it when I get the chance. I accept your insults as a fair and small price to pay for your public (forum version) melting down and the entertainment it provides. [Reply]
