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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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lewdog 04:50 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
Part of it is because the rate of infection in the past week has been much higher here. The survivability or mortality of that group won’t be known until next week. The 100,000 cases we’re going to have by next weekend is going to yield deaths the week after that.

When all is said and done our rate of survivability is likely to be similar to other countries, the extent of how much the infection overwhelms resources (the key problem in Italy right now) notwithstanding.
If we don’t overwhelm the healthcare communities like Italy, however, the mortality rate here should be lower.
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RINGLEADER 04:52 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Speaking of growth:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...5#post14865925

Did you mean globally or nationally?
Nationally.

Obviously after the data yesterday it’s trailing and the slowing down of infection is going to bring the overall number down as well. NY has done a great job of reducing the rate of growth.

Continues to be a battle against the rate of spread and access to ventilators that reduce the death rate in those hospitalized. Those are the two things we can (somewhat) control.

And FTR I hope I continue to be high in those estimates.
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RINGLEADER 04:53 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
If we don’t overwhelm the healthcare communities like Italy, however, the mortality rate here should be lower.
Absolutely it will be.

Italy is even worse then the worst reporting. A lot of people are just dying in line at this point.
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Donger 04:53 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
Nationally.

Obviously after the data yesterday it’s trailing and the slowing down of infection is going to bring the overall number down as well. NY has done a great job of reducing the rate of growth.

Continues to be a battle against the rate of spread and access to ventilators that reduce the death rate in those hospitalized. Those are the two things we can (somewhat) control.

And FTR I hope I continue to be high in those estimates.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad that didn't come to fruition in that time frame.
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BigRedChief 05:02 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Yup not much to report. We already knew cases would go way up for the next few weeks. The story here as pointed out is our lower CFR.
why is the question? If we know the answer, then we can duplicate it more, stop doing whatever isn’t working, is it as simple as better facilities, Doctors, healthcare staff?

Example from my personal experience as a Respiratory Therapist:

I took 34 hours of science based college courses with labs at Missouri State. I did an additional year of college focused on Respiratory Therapy courses in KC at MCCC. While I did that year I did a medical residency at 7 local hospitals working 40 hours a week for free learning and experiencing real world ICU and ER issues.

I heard this week that most Respiratory Therapists in the European Union are trained for 6 months only. That includes book and lecture courses and real life hospital time experience. Some only have experience at one hospital when the graduate.

Respiratory Therapists run the ventilators keeping people alive. Integral part of any ER and trauma team. Who do you think is going to have a better chance to make a positive impact on patients? The ones educated here or the ones educated in the European Union?
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Hammock Parties 05:05 PM 03-26-2020

Imperial College scientist who predicted 500K coronavirus deaths in UK revises to 20K or fewer https://t.co/V5bp18WObY #data #science

— Jason Scott Arnold (@jasonsarnold) March 26, 2020

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Discuss Thrower 05:08 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Q
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Bwana 05:12 PM 03-26-2020
Knew this was coming.

https://www.ktvq.com/news/montana-ne...ce-on-covid-19
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RINGLEADER 05:12 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad that didn't come to fruition in that time frame.
Me too.

The numbers are going to start getting large very quickly but we have done a better than expected job keeping the rate down.

My big fear — and there isn’t enough data to support it yet — is that places with smaller health care capacity are going to get overwhelmed rapidly. NYC can take some steps and the feds can help. When you have 50 NYCs (on a per capita basis) happening this could get really ugly very quickly.

I have no knowledge that localities can’t support their own outbreaks but watching the numbers grow everywhere is discouraging.
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eDave 05:15 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Knew this was coming.

https://www.ktvq.com/news/montana-ne...ce-on-covid-19
Montana seems like a place that would be last to do this.
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BIG_DADDY 05:16 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Knew this was coming.

https://www.ktvq.com/news/montana-ne...ce-on-covid-19
Really? :-)
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wazu 05:19 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Knew this was coming.

https://www.ktvq.com/news/montana-ne...ce-on-covid-19
Wow! Going to refrain from commenting as what I want to write belongs in D.C.
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BIG_DADDY 05:20 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Q
Great post. We passed stupid 100 miles back. At least they recognize it.
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BigRedChief 05:22 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Knew this was coming.

https://www.ktvq.com/news/montana-ne...ce-on-covid-19
curious, you think the citizens of Montana will coroperate more or less with the order than those in Cali or NY?
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oaklandhater 05:24 PM 03-26-2020
Top CDC official warns New York's coronavirus outbreak is just a preview

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...reak-is-just-a

Along with hard-hit New York, with some 30,000 confirmed cases, the epidemic is spreading more broadly. New Jersey has reported more than 4,400 cases. California, Michigan and Washington have all confirmed more than 2,000 cases, and Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania had all recorded more than 1,000 cases, according to state health laboratories compiled by The COVID Tracking Project, a group led by the journalist Alexis Madrigal.
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