Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Actually thats exactly what that trial shows. Extrapolated over the entire population maybe not. But that evidence and the Doctor in NY show exactly what he is talking about.
Exactly what did he show? That nonhospitalized patients suspected (I don't believe all of them were tested, correct me if I am wrong) of having Covid-19 were treated and didn't end up in the hospital?
The majority of patients don't end up in the hospital anyway. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
This is stupid as hell even for you.
It's pedantic. Which is to say it's very on brand.
Just as one should take histrionics from Clay or faux expertise from me for what it is, Donger being....donger....should simply be taken for what it's worth. [Reply]
Stomp with your heel, avoid the ball of the foot. Too close to the toes and once that thing decides to expand you'll be cleaning shit out from between your little piggies for a couple of days. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
There’s an overload of information out there right now
I don’t know how accurate Clays info is, but the same could likely be said for a lot of posters here... real, well meaning medical professionals still can’t fully agree on some aspects of this
Doctor A says hydrochloroquine and Zpacs work
Doctor B says it doesn’t
Etc etc etc
If there are doctors saying that "A" works, they're shysters.
Currently, the US, France and Belgium are doing clinical studies but there's been no proclamation by any verifiable organization, the CDC, etc. that are claiming with any certainty that Chloroquinine is working to reverse the effects of COVID-19.
Azithromycin can have serious side effects and it's been stated as such by real doctors.
There's too much disinformation in this thread and it's causing people to argue over hypotheticals, not proof. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I guarantee that having someones brains on you isn’t funny. At least it wasn’t to me.
That you picked that out of all the words I posted suggests you need to take a break from this thread. Your aggressive posts are a daily occurrence.
We were discussing fluids, possible infectious material gettting on healthcare workers when they don’t have the proper PPE. That information was relevant.
The vast majority of my posts in this thread have been as a mod trying to stop petty bickering or political posts. I dare you to prove that my "aggressive posts are a daily occurrence." [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's pedantic. Which is to say it's very on brand.
Just as one should take histrionics from Clay or faux expertise from me for what it is, Donger being....donger....should simply be taken for what it's worth.
Wow...I just was preparing the exact same post...only I wasn't including you. This thread actually highlights every posters...(style?) [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Unfortunately, that will never happen in my state
Because we live in the People's Republic. :-) On that note I just got a call that my 500lb, 200hp, two wheel scream dream is officially ready for the next 3k miles. Going down to pick up that bitch right now and put some racing fuel in her. Then I think I will pick up some kobe steaks for the fam and top sirloin for the dogs to go along with the berkshire bacon brussel sprouts tonight. You know, the essentials. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Aggressive posts? Again, :-)
That statement just seemed odd is all.
The vast majority of my posts in this thread have been as a mod trying to stop petty bickering or political posts. I dare you to prove that my "aggressive posts are a daily occurrence."
Gee...just Tuesday, ON THIS THREAD, I asked if you were cranky...only to receive a gentle rebuke... [Reply]
Covid-19: Bahrain one of the first in the world to use hydroxychloroquine for treatment
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MANAMA (Bernama): The Kingdom of Bahrain is one of the first in the world to administer hydroxychloroquine to treat active Covid-19 cases, says the country's Supreme Council of Health chairman Lieutenant-General Dr Shaikh Mohamed Abdullah Al Khalifa.
The Bahrain News Agency (BNA) quoted Dr Shaikh Mohamed, who is also the National Taskforce for Combating Covid-19 head, as revealing the information on Tuesday (March 24).
According to the news report, the drug is reported to have had a profound impact when used to treat the symptoms exhibited by active Covid-19 cases.
Bahrain first used the drug on Feb 26, following the registration of its first Covid-19 case on Feb 24.
Dr Shaikh Mohamed said the compound was administered in line with treatment regimens that have seen success in China and South Korea.
Hydroxychloroquine is in a class of drugs used to prevent and treat malaria, discoid or systemic lupus erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis. - Bernam
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Except multiple countries are now starting trials after seeing it be successful. So again its not a CURE its a treatment that has proven effective enough for whole countries to explore the use of it.
Based on the evidence being presented thus far it looks promising. People who choose to believe the evidence provide thus far are not wrong.
It would be irresponsible for them not to start a trial , a lot of trials do fail once all the numbers are crunched unfortunately but I am hoping for good results , it would make my wife's job a lot easier for sure. [Reply]
Has anybody ordered their Coronavirus COVID -19 Key Chain 3- Pack yet over at Giantmicrobs.com? Just $19.95 plus shipping and handling. Pre-Order [Reply]
