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Nzoner's Game Room>Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
Dante84 10:03 AM 02-08-2021
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Pitt Gorilla 11:43 AM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
While I don't think he's crap, I don't think he's top shelf either and reports are that he could get over $10M AAV in the free agent market. If that's the case, I don't want him back. That's too much money.
If he gets $10M AAV, he's FAR FROM crap. Teams simply aren't going to invest that kind of money into a CENTER who isn't worth it.

Of course, Chief Fan thought Morse was "crap" as well.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:43 AM 02-16-2021
I know it isn’t something you can’t count on to happen right now, but my pipe dream is Von Miller gets cut and we get revenge for Neil Smith.
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Pitt Gorilla 11:44 AM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
People are writing that he'll get a $11m per deal.

I wouldn't pay him $2m, and if we enter 2021 with him as the starter I would call that a major fail.

He's just not very good, I don't care what PFF says.
Yeah, PFF and the GMs who would want him as a starter are probably all wrong.
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Chris Meck 11:47 AM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Yeah, PFF and the GMs who would want him as a starter are probably all wrong.
Yeah, if that's how it goes, they are.

Morse wasn't crap at all, he just had multiple concussions.

Reiter is not good. But he's a veteran, and he's been a starter, and maybe what's crap for The Chiefs is not crap for someone else. Doesn't mean we don't need to get better at that spot.
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Hoover 11:48 AM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
If he's "crap", he isn't getting "big bucks" from ANYONE and would be back on a minimum deal, no?
Mitch Morse - 4 year $44M
Zach Fulton - 4 year $28M
Jon Asamoah - 4 year $$22.5M

Guys like Reiter will get real money on the open market, Chiefs OL projects always do. He's not resigning for vet minimum.
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RunKC 11:49 AM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
If he's "crap", he isn't getting "big bucks" from ANYONE and would be back on a minimum deal, no?
Because teams are stupid. Steven Nelson got his ass raped over and over again and the Steelers gave him an $8.5 million AAV contract.
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The Franchise 11:50 AM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Can they do that? His contract voided for 2021. He's already a free agent.
No clue. I haven’t looked too far into it.
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Pitt Gorilla 01:13 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Mitch Morse - 4 year $44M
Zach Fulton - 4 year $28M
Jon Asamoah - 4 year $$22.5M

Guys like Reiter will get real money on the open market, Chiefs OL projects always do. He's not resigning for vet minimum.
If that's the case, he's clearly not "crap."
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Easy 6 01:22 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I know it isn’t something you can’t count on to happen right now, but my pipe dream is Von Miller gets cut and we get revenge for Neil Smith.
Rain Main wants to see you in his office... NOW
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The Franchise 01:23 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
If that's the case, he's clearly not "crap."
Guys get overpaid all of the time on the market.
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Hoover 02:01 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Guys get overpaid all of the time on the market.
Exactly.

I think the Chiefs were wise to let them all walk, that's the hardest thing to do in this business. Let someone else overpay for a guy like Reiter.
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Pitt Gorilla 02:43 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Exactly.

I think the Chiefs were wise to let them all walk, that's the hardest thing to do in this business. Let someone else overpay for a guy like Reiter.
Yet, here we are still trying to replace Hudson.
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htismaqe 02:47 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Yet, here we are still trying to replace Hudson.
Yep. It's a double edged sword for sure. At some point you either accept less than stellar performance or you admit that you're gonna have to ante up.
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Kman34 02:50 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I know it isn’t something you can’t count on to happen right now, but my pipe dream is Von Miller gets cut and we get revenge for Neil Smith.
Are you trying to give Rainman a heart attack??
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Hoover 02:53 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Yet, here we are still trying to replace Hudson.
Different story. He's the one we shouldn't have let get away.

He signed a 5 year $44M dollar deal 7 years ago. That was huge money back then, but I agree looking back we should have paid the man. But lets also. be honest, we replaced him with a rookie (Morse). Hard to argue against how the Chiefs. handled that situation.

And it also might we wise to remember how everyone hated drafting Morse in the 2nd round, because its probably going to happen again.
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