Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Completely disagree. Id say having a QB like Mahomes is the very reason you dont overpay for a player like Ramesay. If Chiefs can get him for a good deal then by all means do it but otherwise no. Not worth the risk we can win wout him.
But what are you gonna win without him? Years of bad DB draft picks and a change of defensive scheme have led to us honestly not having the talent we need at the CB position. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
...or you keep the picks, they don't pan out, and you're still in the same situation.
Again...established elite talent over draft picks 10 out of 10 times.
That's football though. Teams that are generally dynasties draft well. There's not really any way around that because there's a salary cap and you need 50 guys on your roster. If you want to build a dynasty around Pat they're going to have to draft good players to fill out the roster behind these mega contracts.
Every team that has sustained success drafts well. That's the game. The only team who didn't was the Broncos and they were a complete aberration because they won with a QB on his last leg who led the league in INT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
...or you keep the picks, they don't pan out, and you're still in the same situation.
Again...established elite talent over draft picks 10 out of 10 times.
NO! Absolutely not 10 out of 10 times. The questions are:
1. Is the "elite talent" cheap, or are you paying a premium? If you're trading a 1st for an "elite" talent who is getting, or soon will get, top of the market dollars, then you have given up BOTH a pick AND salary cap space. Maybe that's worth doing, but maybe not.
2. Is the "elite talent" going to fit your scheme, and your team? Both in terms of how much of an upgrade is the guy over your current guys, and how his personality and work ethic will fit in your locker room. You don't just get the talent, you get THE ENTIRE GUY. All the good AND the bad. There's usually a reason the guy is on teh trading block. Other teams dont' drop elite talent for no reason.
3. What is the cost in picks. A 7th? Ok. A 1st? Will it be a low 1st (Pats/Chiefs?) or a high 1st (jets/'pins). More than one pick? How many? What rounds?
So it's nowhere near 10 out of 10 times. It's very situational.
Proven talent > picks. That's true. But there's a definite cost. Picks are the best way to accrue cheap talent you can control for years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
That's football though. Teams that are generally dynasties draft well. There's not really any way around that because there's a salary cap and you need 50 guys on your roster. If you want to build a dynasty around Pat they're going to have to draft good players to fill out the roster behind these mega contracts.
Every team that has sustained success drafts well. That's the game. The only team who didn't was the Broncos and they were a complete aberration because they win with a QB on his last leg who led the league in INT.
Or you end up as Green Bay that did this and drafted like toilet leaving their HOF QB without anything to work with. [Reply]
Y'all can take Terez to be gospel all you want, but up until the day the news broke, he constantly reiterated that no one in the organization had mentioned to him that they were in on Earl Thomas.
The guy is a fantastic news reporter – my favorite. But the Chiefs aren't stupid. They aren't going to give information to an insider to run online with that would drive up the asking price. [Reply]
