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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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O.city 07:14 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
What about Hitchens and Houston?
Same thing. Once they deem they’re medically ready to go, if the continually say they aren’t, don’t you think the chiefs would be upset about that?
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Marcellus 07:16 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Bullshit


Berry has a bit more credence on this topic than you do, or anyone else here.

I remember everyone bashing the guy for working out and coming back in less than a year from cancer, don't you?

Nah you loved that shit.
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Marcellus 07:16 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Same thing. Once they deem they’re medically ready to go, if the continually say they aren’t, don’t you think the chiefs would be upset about that?
How do you know or why do you think the Chiefs are "upset"?
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O.city 07:19 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
How do you know or why do you think the Chiefs are "upset"?
The huge contract safety they signed has played 1 game since signing the deal in 2 years.

I’m sure they’re ecstatic about it
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mlyonsd 07:19 PM 10-29-2018
He's going to be slower than shit if he comes back.
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RunKC 07:20 PM 10-29-2018
Pretty obvious this isn’t the Chiefs. It’s Berry not feeling ready. Chiefs thought he’d be ready to play against the Jags.
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Marcellus 07:20 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
The huge contract safety they signed has played 1 game since signing the deal in 2 years.

I’m sure they’re ecstatic about it
I doubt anyone feels good about it for sure. I guess we should never pay another big contract to a player ever again. It just doesn't work out.
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SAUTO 07:20 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Pretty obvious this isn’t the Chiefs. It’s Berry not feeling ready. Chiefs thought he’d be ready to play against the Jags.
That's what I think too
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O.city 07:23 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I doubt anyone feels good about it for sure. I guess we should never pay another big contract to a player ever again. It just doesn't work out.
Yeah, pretty much.
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bigjosh 07:24 PM 10-29-2018
Our toughest game on the schedule is in 3 weeks. If 29 isn’t out there playing he can eat a fat dick.
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Sassy Squatch 07:25 PM 10-29-2018
Wait a minute. You're telling me players actually CAN update the media about how their rehab is going.

https://www.chargers.com/news/joey-b...-injury-update

Joey Bosa stood in the center of the Chargers locker room on Monday, fielding questions for 12 minutes from a throng of reporters.

Everyone wanted to know how the star defensive end’s foot was feeling as it’s kept him sidelined since the start of the season.

Bosa was eager to provide an update.

Number 99 listed a litany of reasons why he is more confident than ever regarding his return while also explaining why he won’t put an exact timetable on it. Overall, the past few weeks have been big for Bosa as he’s ramped up his rehab.

“(It’s) the first time that I’m really making some strides to get out on the field,” he said. “It’s been a slow progression ever since I left. We kind of started from square one, literally walking on the field. You have to walk before you run. I know it’s kind of silly, but it’s kind of how it goes. It’s simple walking. Toe walks. Heel walks. Rising up on my toes. It’s just been a very slow progression.”

Thus, you can see why Bosa was so excited to ramp up his activity.

“It was my first day in cleats,” he said. “I actually got in some three-point stances. I’ve been running straight ahead. The fastest times I’ve run yet. I’m feeling good. Straight ahead is really good right now. Not much discomfort. It’s definitely been something that’s tough to deal with; managing but not pushing it too hard, and not being able to get any quality work in the next day because of it being too sore.”



Maybe Berry can take a break from taking a break and explain why the **** he's been day to day for almost 3 months.
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DJ's left nut 07:28 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Pretty obvious this isn’t the Chiefs. It’s Berry not feeling ready. Chiefs thought he’d be ready to play against the Jags.
That's not been a question since about week 3 when Andy started running the same cover for him that Clark did today.

He'll be on the field the moment he decides he wants to be.

This has always been Berry's call.
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Titty Meat 07:39 PM 10-29-2018
This thread is embarrassing
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Sassy Squatch 07:45 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
This thread is embarrassing
Is it as embarrassing as an NFL player making 13 million per season sitting out because of a pump bump? I don't think so.
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Imon Yourside 07:49 PM 10-29-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Are you an All Pro Safety? :-)
I can lead a sideline cheer for 1 mil a year, off the cap money to boot!
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