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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Hammock Parties 10:29 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Did someone really post the mortality rate being 30%? :-) that's higher than any plague known to man. Might be time to ignore this thread if it's just going to turn into some alarmist bullshit.
only six days until the US reaches 20,000 deaths
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DaFace 10:29 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Did someone really post the mortality rate being 30%? :-) that's higher than any plague known to man. Might be time to ignore this thread if it's just going to turn into some alarmist bullshit.
Yep. For the most part, discussion based on people doing basic math with a 4-banger calculator is largely useless.
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DJ's left nut 10:30 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
This is completely unacceptable in America. Trash bags as PPE's? :-)

We are supposed to be fighting a war. We cant even get basic supplies to our front line fighters. We are endangering every patient and every health care worker in that hospital.

Whatever they are doing to get PPE's to hospitals is not enough.


But here's the thing - the only hospitals demonstrating a significant capacity issue right now are in NY and indications now are that sufficient PPE has been secured to battle this to it's apex in NY.

So...dafuq?

WERE they in dire straights? Sure seems that way. Were they ignored? No, and help is inbound.

So seriously - what the hell? This idea that there's someone to blame for everything and "THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE IN AMERICA!!!!" is nutty.

Math is the same here as it is anywhere else. We're responding damn well and yet all some want to do is bitch.
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petegz28 10:32 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Did someone really post the mortality rate being 30%? :-) that's higher than any plague known to man. Might be time to ignore this thread if it's just going to turn into some alarmist bullshit.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Yep. For the most part, discussion based on people doing basic math with a 4-banger calculator is largely useless.

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Mr_Tomahawk 10:32 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
What the heck is going on in Spain?
I don't know....are they still out of control?
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Donger 10:33 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
This is completely unacceptable in America. Trash bags as PPE's? :-)

We are supposed to be fighting a war. We cant even get basic supplies to our front line fighters. We are endangering every patient and every health care worker in that hospital.

Whatever they are doing to get PPE's to hospitals is not enough.


At Mount Sinai, where social media photos show nurses wearing 33-gallon garbage bags as makeshift gowns amid a supply shortage, a nursing manager was listed among the recent fatalities. He was in his 40s.

Cuomo said Thursday his office has reached out to city hospitals and while there may be some spot issues with distribution, they say they have adequate personal protective equipment for now. If they find themselves short, the governor said he'd have the state send more, adding "we have enough PPE for the immediate need." But New York doesn't have enough to last much longer, given an infection rate that Cuomo said earlier this week "continues unabated."
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petegz28 10:34 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk:
I don't know....are they still out of control?
Yes
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Marcellus 10:36 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
This is completely unacceptable in America. Trash bags as PPE's? :-)

We are supposed to be fighting a war. We cant even get basic supplies to our front line fighters. We are endangering every patient and every health care worker in that hospital.

Whatever they are doing to get PPE's to hospitals is not enough.


http://betsymccaughey.com/we-didnt-h...-for-pandemic/

Read this and take from it what you like but NY specifically was warned in 2015 they didn't have enough supplies for a pandemic and they ignored it for the most part.
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petegz28 10:39 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
http://betsymccaughey.com/we-didnt-h...-for-pandemic/

Read this and take from it what you like but NY specifically was warned in 2015 they didn't have enough supplies for a pandemic and they ignored it for the most part.
Yep. I mean this is not the time to point fingers and what not but that is the fact.
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BIG_DADDY 10:40 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Did someone really post the mortality rate being 30%? :-) that's higher than any plague known to man. Might be time to ignore this thread if it's just going to turn into some alarmist bullshit.
Where have you been? It's been like this the whole time.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
only six days until the US reaches 20,000 deaths
Yea like 2 weeks ago tomorrow I saw the predictions that by this weekend we would have 5 Wuhan's and the skies would be black with the smell of all the burning bodies they would not be able to get to fast enough.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

In the last 6 months the CDC's numbers for just the US in flu deaths surpasses the worlds total for Corona Virus to date.
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BWillie 10:40 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
What numbers besides total cases and deaths would you like to use at this time?
Ideally, discredit any active case. Use only deaths + recoveries + any asymptomatic + symptomatic person who has recovered.
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DaFace 10:42 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY:
Where have you been? It's been like this the whole time.
On both ends, to be fair. Some people act like the world is ending. Others act like this is a huge overreaction to just another flu season (though that's died down a bit in the past week or so).
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BWillie 10:42 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Did someone really post the mortality rate being 30%? :-) that's higher than any plague known to man. Might be time to ignore this thread if it's just going to turn into some alarmist bullshit.
It's not 30%. I was just trying to illustrate how people are using math wrong.

It COULD be 30% based on cases outside of China that doesn't have a result. But a good chance that some recoveries have and are not being reported. When you factor in people who have it and are mild symptoms but don't seek help it's obviously much lower.
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BIG_DADDY 10:42 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BWillieHysterical:
Ideally, discredit any active case. Use only deaths + recoveries + any asymptomatic + symptomatic person who has recovered.
Considering 80% feel little to nothing? :-) OK
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BIG_DADDY 10:43 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BWillieHysterical:
It's not 30%. I was just trying to illustrate how people are using math wrong.

It COULD be 30% based on cases outside of China that doesn't have a result. But a good chance that some recoveries have and are not being reported.
You think? Good god dude.
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