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Nzoner's Game Room>*.* NEW- 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*
penguinz 01:44 PM 08-13-2014
I guess we filled up the old one... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280149

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.
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Silock 07:26 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Inmem58:
It may help with weight loss, but I think the long term effect is far more harmful. Just my opinion though. I don't claim to have a degree like Lewdog.
And that's where the science comes in. Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives of all time, and it's always come out clean. The only doses in which its been shown to have been harmful, and even then, only to rats, were in human doses equivalent to 30 diet sodas a day.

I know that a lot of things seem unfathomable, but that's why we have science there to provide objective results when things seem to be unthinkable.
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In58men 07:39 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Silock:
And that's where the science comes in. Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives of all time, and it's always come out clean. The only doses in which its been shown to have been harmful, and even then, only to rats, were in human doses equivalent to 30 diet sodas a day.

I know that a lot of things seem unfathomable, but that's why we have science there to provide objective results when things seem to be unthinkable.
A little article on health.com

"It confuses your body
Artificial sweeteners have more intense flavor than real sugar, so over time products like diet soda dull our senses to naturally sweet foods like fruit, says Brooke Alpert, RD, author of The Sugar Detox. Even more troubling, these sugar stand-ins have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. "Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain," Alpert says"


I mean is this false information here? I truly believe a person drinking a can a day of this stuff is going to have more problems in the future.
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Hammock Parties 07:42 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Inmem58:
"Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain," Alpert says"


I mean is this false information here?
Yes. I drank 3-4 diet sodas a day for years and it never prevented me from losing weight or made me gain weight.

I decided to quit because they are bad for your teeth, though.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 08:03 PM 02-11-2015
I drink an average of two diet sodas a day.
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In58men 08:12 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Numbah One:
Yes. I drank 3-4 diet sodas a day for years and it never prevented me from losing weight or made me gain weight.

I decided to quit because they are bad for your teeth, though.
Promise?
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Hammock Parties 08:19 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Inmem58:
Promise?
Once I get my braces off I'll probably have 1-2 a week. I don't think I realized what kind of damage they were doing until last year, though.
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O.city 08:36 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Same reason diabetics have non-healing wounds. Bacteria just love feasting on the high blood sugar.
And lazy leukocytes :-)
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O.city 08:37 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Numbah One:
Once I get my braces off I'll probably have 1-2 a week. I don't think I realized what kind of damage they were doing until last year, though.
Just rinse with water after you have a soda.


Brackets or invisalign?
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Hammock Parties 08:44 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by O.city:
Just rinse with water after you have a soda.


Brackets or invisalign?
Brackets. I was told it was not a good idea to drink diet soda at all.
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Titty Meat 08:52 PM 02-11-2015
Who cares how many diet sodas he drinks as long as he's burning more calories than he takes in.
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Silock 08:56 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Inmem58:
A little article on health.com

"It confuses your body
Artificial sweeteners have more intense flavor than real sugar, so over time products like diet soda dull our senses to naturally sweet foods like fruit, says Brooke Alpert, RD, author of The Sugar Detox. Even more troubling, these sugar stand-ins have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. "Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain," Alpert says"


I mean is this false information here? I truly believe a person drinking a can a day of this stuff is going to have more problems in the future.
Yes, it's false. This is a great site, and it includes references to studies on the substances in question.

http://examine.com/faq/do-artificial...e-insulin.html
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Simply Red 08:58 PM 02-11-2015
I will say Clay did well - but there's no reason Inmen and Billay can't do the same - Just stop arguing about stupid shit and pick these guy's brains. I got a ton of motivation from the first fitness thread - that was when i was a 36 waist.

I learned a lot from these guys - BUT - I benefited more from the motivation it gave - versus actual new knowledge I learned. Basically the easy way to say that is - I got more motivation than I did any actual data. However I still absolutely DID learn several things as well.

Man I need to post more - my written communications are turd right now.

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CanadianChiefs 09:24 PM 02-11-2015
Anyone have experiencing working out with a nagging shoulder injury (ACJ joint in shoulder) basically a seperated shoulder. Happened years ago when I played hockey. Couple that with the bulged discs I have from playing tennis every day last summer (something just went SNAP) and I've been a couch potato for 6 months. Should I just start lifting very light? I'm also in physio but not sure it's working although I only just started. I'm tired of feeling useless and in pain even while sitting. Fucking suckssss.
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penguinz 09:30 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by CanadianChiefs:
Anyone have experiencing working out with a nagging shoulder injury (ACJ joint in shoulder) basically a seperated shoulder. Happened years ago when I played hockey. Couple that with the bulged discs I have from playing tennis every day last summer (something just went SNAP) and I've been a couch potato for 6 months. Should I just start lifting very light? I'm also in physio but not sure it's working although I only just started. I'm tired of feeling useless and in pain even while sitting. Fucking suckssss.
Avoid incline bench press. For regular press use dumbbells not barbell. Go easy on front raises and military press.

I have seperated both AC joints and have tears in both RCs. There are days i cant lift my arms. Sometimes life sucks!
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CanadianChiefs 09:45 PM 02-11-2015
Originally Posted by penguinz:
Avoid incline bench press. For regular press use dumbbells not barbell. Go easy on front raises and military press.

I have seperated both AC joints and have tears in both RCs. There are days i cant lift my arms. Sometimes life sucks!
Yeah, my right collarbone is pretty popped out from the aftermath, but nowhere near what you've experienced. Thanks for the advice.

I really have to strengthen my shoulders I guess, but I'm going to use light weight, I've got them taped up to keep me in a better posture and today was probably the best I've felt. I think the injury messed with my posture. Now to just get my discs back to normal...does it feel like you can pop it back out easily when you turn or try to pop it? Hard to explain but mine moves like crazy. Just feels like the whole thing is not working in harmony with the rest of my back. I gotta go back for another MRI because last time they found NOTHING (Years ago) but I told them the pain was in my lower back so maybe they focused there. I don't know but I'm sick of it!
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