Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Doctor: White House has my '100% successful' coronavirus treatment
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Zelenko, 46, told WND he is in direct communication with Mark Meadows, the North Carolina congressman who has been tapped by President Trump to become the next White House chief of staff.
"I don't know if the president saw [the protocols], but they were presented to whoever they needed to be presented to," he said.
"I know for a fact that my protocols are now at the Ministry of Health in Israel and that the government is considering adopting them."
On Tuesday, Vice President Mike Pence announced that the FDA has approved the use of hydroxychloroquine experimentally for any coronavirus patient while clinical trials commence.
In a video widely distributed Tuesday on social media, Zelenko said he treated 350 patients for COVID-19 with 100% success. Since then, among an even higher sample, one person he treated has been hospitalized, he told WND.
"So, it's not 100%," he said, "but nothing in life is 100%."
"I'm not claiming any miracles here," Zelenko said. "All I did was take established remedies and modify the dosage slightly, based on data from studies in France and the Far East."
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Zelenko said the results are "remarkable."
"I'm seeing respiratory symptoms resolve as fast as four hours. That's not the norm," he said. "It takes 12 hours on average, in my experience.
"But I've seen remarkable results, and I have now colleagues who are implementing this as well and they are reporting the same anecdotal data."
The colleagues include Dr. William Grace of the hematology and oncology department at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.
"He is in complete agreement with my protocols, and he also describes significant improvement anecdotally," Zelenko said.
Another is Dr. Rosy Joseph, a nephrologist in Hackensack, New Jersey, who says she is using the protocols with success.
"These drugs are well known, they're old," Zelenko said. "We know their side-effect protocols, which is relatively low. And they're cheap.
Flying out of MCI today for work. No one asked for essential paperwork or anything, but the airport is a ghost town so most people are following the stay at home order it seems. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Meanwhile nearly 114,000 people have fully recovered to date
That'll be the next step here and a HUGE one for the national mood.
In a week or so we'll have recovery numbers starting to spike in a big way as the virus progresses naturally. And yes, in that same period some of those earlier cases will also die. But at that point we'll start getting more positive outcomes than negative ones and if things progress well, that gap will only continue to widen.
Part of this has been the dearth of confirmed recoveries and the fact that those that die do so sooner in the process than those that recover. So there's a recovery lag that makes everything look horrific.
You're starting to see people put their heads up a little. Not that they're running out to the bars, but that they're getting their feet under them and don't feel like they're just spinning 100 mph anymore. This shit just moves so fast that nobody feels secure even IF they're in a low risk group or completely quarantined.
That's why I think it's important to take good news where you can find it. If there are encouraging results from a double-blind study on hydroxichloroquine - man, let the scientists argue about the sample size and the methodologies. Don't fucking drink marine parasite killer, but consider that it has shown some promise and even if it doesn't help 100% of people or even 50% of people, there's a real chance it can help 30% and that's a good thing.
A brick doesn't have to be a wall. Don't just look for silver bullets and when you don't find them, consign yourself to misery. Take good news as it comes and embrace it. Use it to continue powering forward. If we find enough bricks, we'll build that wall and be in damn nice shape. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
He wants money.
Yup.
Loooooots of procedural mechanisms being thrown out there. Can't be eligible for disaster relief funds unless you've had a disaster.
Ultimately the federal gov't can theoretically decline the request, but if you don't ask, you're gonna be fighting uphill for the scraps in all likelihood. [Reply]
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