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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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Mile High Mania 11:20 PM 02-23-2017
Originally Posted by Dagnabit:
Please sign Romo.

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE.
You shut your dirty mouth...

Man, the offseason really takes things to an all new level of suck around here.
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Pasta Little Brioni 11:28 PM 02-23-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Dorsey doesn't get props for drafting Tyreek Hill. Every other GM in the league knew they wouldn't be able to look their wife in the eye had they drafted him. I guess Dorsey had no such problem.
How does Elway feel with thugs like Joseph, Talib, Von, and Sanders?
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Coochie liquor 04:50 AM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by Softdick BJ:
Women beaters unite!
So like your GM's son?
http://m.tmz.com/#gallery/2014/10/23...photos-07-jpg/

Or your owners son??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ghing-gas.html
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Coochie liquor 05:08 AM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by CaseOfDildos Joe:
At least Elway's draft picks make the team. How's Russell and Hogan workin' out for ya?
http://www.scout.com/nfl/broncos/sto...nver-s-offense

Chris Humphreys/USA TODAY Sports
Denver's Struggles On Offense The Result Of John Elway's Draft Whiffs & The Coaches' Failure To Develop Players

NICK KENDELL
12/12/2016
Why is the Broncos offense struggling consistently? Could it have something to do with how John Elway has drafted offensive talent? Nick Kendell examines.

Once again, the Denver Broncos lost a close and winnable game thanks in large part to the struggles and inconsistencies on the offensive side of the ball. While the Denver defense did not force a turnover this Sunday against the Tennessee Titans, they did only allow 13 points to a team that matched up very well against them offensively.
The Titans offered a unique and challenging battle for the defense, having one of the best offensive lines in football — led by stud offensive tackles Taylor Lewan and Jack Conklin — a stable of power runners with DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry, a very mobile QB in Marcus Mariota, and a great, complete tight end in Delanie Walker.

This type of offensive combination has given the Broncos defense fits in the past. However this Sunday, despite not playing a perfect game and really struggling against the Titans rushing attack, the Orange Crush did enough to win in Nashville. As we have seen over the past two seasons, it was the struggles of the offense that led to Denver’s demise and may have just cost them a chance to return to the playoffs for a sixth straight year.

Broncos Lose A Must-Win Game In Tennessee

The Broncos needed a win in Tennessee to keep pace in the best Division in the NFL, but they came up short.


by Chad Jensen
Mile High Huddle12/12/2016
Denver is not going to win games consistently with the offensive struggles they have exhibited so far this season. Whether it be issues in the passing game, inability of the offensive line to run block or pass block consistently, running backs missing obvious cutback holes, or the vanilla uninspired play calling, we are a few kneels and miracle plays at the end of a game away from being back to the sad offense when Mr. Tim Tebow himself played under center (or in shotgun behind center, because his footwork was never good enough to truly play under center).
There will undoubtedly be a fair amount of finger pointing for Denver’s anemic play on the offensive side of the ball. Is it the coaches’ fault for the lack of a game-plan that helps put Denver's best players in position to win?
Is it the offensive players themselves for not executing and getting beat consistently in their one-on-one matchups? Is it because the Broncos have an unheralded former seventh round quarterback? It very well may be a combination of all these things. However, Denver’s recent inability to draft and develop offensive talent is the biggest driver of theirr current woeful state on offense.
GM John Elway is well on his way to becoming a double Hall-of-Famer as both a quarterback and a Front Office Executive. He has done a phenomenal job since returning to the Broncos in building a consistent AFC Power.
Elway is the true leader of a franchise that expects nothing but perfection from its coaches and players, all the way down to the intern that brings Mr. Elway his coffee in the morning. I am a giant Elway fan. However, Elway and the front office are not above criticism and are, in fact, a large reason why Denver is currently struggling on the offensive side of the ball.
Since Elway has taken over, Denver has used nine selections in the first three rounds on the offensive side of the ball. In 2011, Elway’s first draft, Denver selected tackle Orlando Franklin in the second round. Franklin now plays for the San Diego Chargers and is a big reason for the Chargers success on the ground this season when he is healthy.
Despite not being able to re-sign Franklin, I would call that a successful draft pick by the front office. Sadly, it just goes down hill from there. In 2012, Denver selected quarterback Brock Osweiler in the second round and running back Ronnie Hillman in the third round.

Aftermath: How The Broncos Lost In Tennessee

The Broncos dropped their fifth game of the season in Tennessee. We chronicle the comedy of errors that led to Denver's disappointing loss.


by Chad Jensen
Mile High Huddle12/12/2016
Elway was shown to be brilliant on the free agent market again this offseason, letting the overrated Osweiler walk to the Houston Texans, who likely regret their investment, as Osweiler has shown to be a below average NFL quarterback, if that.
Hillman has now been on three different rosters this season and smells of a player who could be out of the league very shortly. Both offered Denver some value when they were here, but offer nothing to the current state of offense. Given the value of second and third round draft picks, we can call this an overall whiff by the front office.
In 2013, the Broncos selected running back Montee Ball in the second round, only ten selections after Le'Veon Bell was selected — to rub salt in all of our collective wounds. Ball is currently out of the league and has had issues with the law. This was a major miss by the front office.
Denver could have selected a offensive lineman, tight end, slot receiver, or a different running back that would still be on their rookie contract and contributing to the team. Instead, we have another missed pick on the offensive side of the ball.
In the 2014 draft, the Broncos traded up to select receiver Cody Latimer in the second round and selected tackle Michael Schofield in the third round. I, for one, am actually a fan of what Schofield brings to Denver. Outside of a horrible game against the second-best edge rusher in football, Schofield has been nothing but consistent for the Broncos and offers value in being able to play both tackle and guard, while being at least league average at guard.
Latimer is a very effective gunner, but given the talent level of the 2014 draft at wide receiver, and that Denver traded up to select Latimer, we can safely call a spade a spade when it comes to that poor selection by the Broncos. Yet again, an offensive draft miss.
Being only a year from the 2015 draft class, it is too early call any draft pick from that class a complete bust. However, if any players could challenge that line of thinking it would be tackle Ty Sambrailo, whom Denver drafted in the second round, and tight end Jeff Heuerman, selected in the third round.
Both of these players are young and still offer hope towards future contribution to the Broncos, but if they cannot get on the field then they offer practically nothing to this team or this offense.

Finally, the Broncos 2016 draft and Elway’s first first round pick on the offensive side of the ball, quarterback Paxton Lynch.. While it definitely is far too early to call Lynch a bust, a sense of uneasiness definitely has fallen over the fan base, given how poor Lynch has looked in comparison to other rookie QBs playing fairly well this season.
He has a long way to go before he is a quality player for the Broncos offense, let alone a capable backup. We all should have known this when Lynch was selected. Being just a few years out from playing a Wing T Scheme and hardly ever taking a snap under center, Lynch had as steep of a learning curve as any first round quarterback in the last decade. While I still have hope for Lynch, he does not offer any solutions to fixing the offensive woes this season, or in the near future.
There is no doubt Elway is one of the best general managers and front office executives in the NFL. He turned around a team that was coming off the disaster that was Josh McDaniels as a head coach, an offense led by a QB that is now trying his hand at baseball (thanks for using a first round pick on that guy as well McDaniels) and transformed the Broncos into a team that has won five straight AFC West Titles, two Super Bowl Appearances, and another Championship in the trophy case for Mr. Bowlen.
With all that said, if Denver is going to keep up with the suddenly stacked AFC West and continue to be a Championship-caliber team, Elway and the front office need to start hitting on their early offensive draft selections. Is the real issue that the Broncos are selecting the wrong players, or is it that the coaching staff (looking at you Rick Dennison and Clancy Barrone) have proven to be inadequate at developing and harnessing the talent?
No one can say for sure, but if Denver does not start hitting on early offensive draft picks and developing them to be starters, then Broncos fans are in for some sad, low-scoring football going forward.
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RunKC 06:32 AM 02-24-2017
Broncos no picking up Okung's option. So now they are going to try to fix their entire OL this offseason.

Their only good OL last year has horrible hip problems.
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King_Chief_Fan 07:24 AM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ:
Congrats, it sure helped your team win the big playoff games... or not?

Are you talking about the playoffs that Denver missed?
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Mile High Mania 07:51 AM 02-24-2017
There's no denying that Denver has swung and missed on offensive draft picks... Latimer is the biggest failure. Booker and Janovich from last year - jury is still out.

Some of the OL guys from recent drafts haven't been terrible, but they have not had their big find yet. The biggest success has been Siemian, and he was a 7th round hope that turned out to be better than average in 2016. Long term answer? I doubt it...

So, they better use that FA money wisely.
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Quesadilla Joe 02:25 PM 02-24-2017
Ouch... Denver was expecting at least two thirds and maybe a 4th...

#Broncos got four compensatory picks -- a third, a fifth and two sevenths.

— Jeff Legwold (@Jeff_Legwold) February 24, 2017


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Quesadilla Joe 03:03 PM 02-24-2017

Big difference since Elway took charge: Broncos have had NFL-most 11 comp picks 2015-17. They had 0 comp picks in previous 9 years. #9sports

— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) February 24, 2017

:-)
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Hog's Gone Fishin 06:15 PM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:

:-)


Umm, don't you get comp picks by losing good players ?
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Quesadilla Joe 06:24 PM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
Umm, don't you get comp picks by losing good players ?
Yeah that's how some teams get comp picks. But Elway takes it up another level by tricking other teams into overspending for his bad players (see Brock Osweiler).
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Hog's Gone Fishin 06:26 PM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Yeah that's how some teams get comp picks. But Elway takes it up another level by tricking other teams into overspending for his bad players (see Brock Osweiler).
That Elway is so awesome. I wish we had a GM that could hold his jockstrap. BTW , I'm sure Donald stephenson will make the probowl next year.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 06:33 PM 02-24-2017
Come on, Lil' Donkey; sign that Texas broke-dick! Pay out the nose for that "franchise" wannabe, Simpson-banging guinea!

You can do it!
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Coochie liquor 06:42 PM 02-24-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Yeah that's how some teams get comp picks. But Elway takes it up another level by tricking other teams into overspending for his bad players (see Brock Osweiler).
Yeah, Okung, and Stephenson..... that's really taking it up a level.
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Mile High Mania 11:29 AM 02-25-2017
The Broncos have a ton of work to do, especially on the OL... but they need a slot WR, better TE, maybe another RB... not to mention a few areas of focus with depth on the defense.

They'll be active as usual in FA, but it has to be better than the failed signings in 2016. They have the money to make some noise, so we'll see.

They have 10 draft picks and depending on what's there at 20, I'd love to see them move back in Round 1, pick up an extra pick (or two) depending on what's there. They can't "fix" the issues solely in the draft and those guys will take time, esp OL. So, move back if there's nothing screaming "immediate impact starter" and focus on quantity. I think they need to sign 2 quality OL guys in FA. They've had draft misses, no doubt about it and it's why they focus so hard on FA - always have, and I'm fine with that. But, they do need to improve their effectiveness with the draft.

**Edit** They won't sign Romo... but, they will draft another QB, likely in the mid rounds... they always draft a QB. McCoy and Musgrave were brought in to develop the two they have, and they'll draft a 3rd.


BRONCOS’ 2017 DRAFT PICKS

Rd. 1, No. 20 (own)
Rd. 2, No. 51 (own)
Rd. 3, No. 82 (own)
Rd. 3, No. 101 (compensatory)
Rd. 4, No. 127 (own)
Rd. 5, No. 177 (compensatory)
Rd. 6, No. 203 (own, from Tennessee)
Rd. 7, No. 238 (own)
Rd. 7, No. 252 (compensatory)
Rd. 7, No. 253 (compensatory)
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