Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Svidently, Filoni is part of the problem being one of Kennedy's sycophants.
I don't think anybody who isn't would last long at LucasFilm. Of course, it's been that way even when Darth Lucas ran the show. I remember Plinkett's review of Phantom Menace showed producer Rick McCallum watching film footage with a look of abject horror on his face. He knew it sucked. But he also knew that if he told George that it sucked, he'd be instantly out of a job. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Yeah its more the destroying of the entire cannon and overt "We were cast out because of men" type shit......
Dont defend this garbage. For fuck sakes it was developed by a garbage human being to boot. Ofc its trash...... Again DO NOT DEFEND
Did they say or intimate they were cast out because of men, or because they were “weird” users of the Force?
I gleaned the latter from it but wasn’t enraptured and at the edge of my seat watching or anything, so maybe I missed something.
I do find the primary master to be an interesting take on a Jedi. Somewhat Qui Gon Jinn-like in having friction with the counsel and trying to follow the Living Force, seemingly.
There’s Star Wars stuff I’ll defend from just about any critique (Clone Wars outside the movie, Rebels, Andor, Rogue One, Obi-Wan, OT, any EU works by Matthew Stover, Mandalorian, Ahsoka) and then there’s the rest.
And I have a looser care about the canon. I was very invested in the pre-Disney canon (literally. Basically all the EU books, hundreds of comic books).
Then they re-wrote a lot of it. I can either be bitter and not enjoy new stuff or get over it and try to find things in the new stuff to enjoy. I choose the latter. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Did they say or intimate they were cast out because of men, or because they were “weird” users of the Force?
I gleaned the latter from it but wasn’t enraptured and at the edge of my seat watching or anything, so maybe I missed something.
I do find the primary master to be an interesting take on a Jedi. Somewhat Qui Gon Jinn-like in having friction with the counsel and trying to follow the Living Force, seemingly.
There’s Star Wars stuff I’ll defend from just about any critique (Clone Wars outside the movie, Rebels, Andor, Rogue One, Obi-Wan, OT, any EU works by Matthew Stover, Mandalorian, Ahsoka) and then there’s the rest.
And I have a looser care about the canon. I was very invested in the pre-Disney canon (literally. Basically all the EU books, hundreds of comic books).
Then they re-wrote a lot of it. I can either be bitter and not enjoy new stuff or get over it and try to find things in the new stuff to enjoy. I choose the latter.
Translation:
"I'll eat whatever shit they put on my plate and call Star Wars!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Did they say or intimate they were cast out because of men, or because they were “weird” users of the Force?
I gleaned the latter from it but wasn’t enraptured and at the edge of my seat watching or anything, so maybe I missed something.
I do find the primary master to be an interesting take on a Jedi. Somewhat Qui Gon Jinn-like in having friction with the counsel and trying to follow the Living Force, seemingly.
There’s Star Wars stuff I’ll defend from just about any critique (Clone Wars outside the movie, Rebels, Andor, Rogue One, Obi-Wan, OT, any EU works by Matthew Stover, Mandalorian, Ahsoka) and then there’s the rest.
And I have a looser care about the canon. I was very invested in the pre-Disney canon (literally. Basically all the EU books, hundreds of comic books).
Then they re-wrote a lot of it. I can either be bitter and not enjoy new stuff or get over it and try to find things in the new stuff to enjoy. I choose the latter.
I mean - when someone tries to tell you what they're doing, you should probably listen.
The creators of the series have flat out said that their goal is to focus on increased representation and didn't a few of the actresses say stuff even more overtly antagonistic than that?
You want to give a more mundane meaning to their story choices but THEY don't. They flat out say that they intended them exactly as heavy handed as the most critical reviews have claimed.
That said - maybe I'm completely wrong because I'm not going to watch these. I'm not going to reward Disney for choosing leadership that actively antagonizes its fanbase. And that blames the fanbase being critical on them being misogynistic bigots rather than their incredibly erratic product (because take the messaging out if you want, it's undeniable that the simple quality of these shows is all over the map).
They operate as though they don't want me as part of the audience - and so I shall oblige them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I mean - when someone tries to tell you what they're doing, you should probably listen.
The creators of the series have flat out said that their goal is to focus on increased representation and didn't a few of the actresses say stuff even more overtly antagonistic than that?
You want to give a more mundane meaning to their story choices but THEY don't. They flat out say that they intended them exactly as heavy handed as the most critical reviews have claimed.
That said - maybe I'm completely wrong because I'm not going to watch these. I'm not going to reward Disney for choosing leadership that actively antagonizes its fanbase. And that blames the fanbase being critical on them being misogynistic bigots rather than their incredibly erratic product (because take the messaging out if you want, it's undeniable that the simple quality of these shows is all over the map).
They operate as though they don't want me as part of the audience - and so I shall oblige them.
Great point. Between this show and the Boys, you have the showrunners flat out acknowledging that they have an agenda, and people will STILL pretend they don't. [Reply]