Post here. Pertinent free agent signings can still have their own thread. Anyone who replies with a Q, because something is buried in this thread should blah blah AIDS tree. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Did he though? Did he in 2018? When has he, except when Clark was healthy and lining up a spot down?
Jones is a really great pass rusher. Absolutely disruptive. Average-ish run defender. That's not a knock, it's hard to be elite at anything in the NFL.
He's really, really good.
Jones made dee Ford look good. Without jones push up the middle ford doesnt get many or most of the sacks that he got because ford needed someone to keep the qbs from stepping up in the pocket. [Reply]
Dontari Poe may have a landing spot soon. The veteran defensive tackle is in discussions with the Cowboys on a deal, Ian Rapoport of NFL.com tweets, adding that a contract could be finalized by the end of the day.
In their hunt for defensive tackle help, the Cowboys are also examining the likes of Ndamukong Suh, Damon Harrison and Mike Pennel, NFL.com’s Jane Slater adds (on Twitter). The Cowboys lost Maliek Collins in free agency last week but already made a deal to sign Gerald McCoy. A Poe addition would make this a high-profile interior line and make for an interesting reunion for players who spent last season on Carolina’s defensive front.
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I completely disagree.
Guys like Jones help make the guys around him better directly and indirectly.
Opposing offenses are forced to double team Jones and still lose the battle. That means other players only have to beat a single block to eat. It also forces the QB to need to move to avoid pressure (often immediate pressure) and that makes the job of the DEs easier. He also helps the CBs because the QB is often throwing off balance and rushed.
The truth is, Unicorns like CJ make good players out of average players around them through their impact.
I re-watched the Super Bowl 50 highlights with Cam after watching him dominate the 2015 season. Has one game had more of a negative impact on a player's career than Super Bowl 50 had on Cam Newton?
It is incredible how the Denver defense made him completely unravel. With the fossil of Peyton Manning playing on the other side, the only way Carolina loses that game is if they beat themselves, and damn if Denver's defense didn't make them do just that. Denver deserves credit, Cam was never the same after Von Miller sent him to the moon on that early sack - but the amount of unforced errors Carolina made from that point was just astounding to watch. Whoever was playcalling for Carolina in that game deserves more blame than Cam - seriously. Seven step drops against Denver's D that year was just not going to work. Funnily enough, Alex Smith was pretty much Denver's kryptonite that year. Screens, short drops, misdirection, and limiting mistakes was the way to beat them. Even the Patriots beat themselves against Denver that year. They had two critical failures on fourth down in the 4th quarter against Denver in the Championship game, if they just take the points, they beat Denver comfortably at Mile High. Andy really had Denver down (like he does all divisional foes) by the end of that season - for whatever reason no one bothered to peek at his playbook when it was playoff time.
Cam has never been looked at the same way after that game. The performance was one thing, but how he froze on that last fumble (giving Denver the game) and stormed out of the postgame just left a mark on him that he hasn't been able to shake. People forget how he was two games away from leading Carolina to an undefeated season before that game - he truly took over the league that year and it was all forgotten after that game.
I'd be curious to see a competent offensive mind work with him - seriously. He was a blast to watch when he was on. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DrRyan:
Nice to be the team getting a player's best years instead of overpaying for the worse years.
Poe has carved out a really decent career for himself. I thought he'd be out of the league not long after he left the Chiefs because of all his back issues. If he's been smart with his money he should have a ton of it by now. Good for him, hope he didn't take too many shots to the head and can be around a long time to enjoy it.
But yeah, we definitely got his best years. [Reply]
